K-Line 32, 128 and 256 speed steps

FfffredddOGR Forum Member

My B&A 4-6-4t with cruise has the ability to change both chuffs and speed steps via the Cab-1 handheld. It also had an unusual way to set stall speed when not in Cruise mode.
The cruise used to be a little jerky when new but since has settled down so that it is one of my favorite slow runners. Did the recommended smoke mods also.

I know that this was one of the later or maybe last locomotives that K-line produced.
I was lucky to get a very detail manual which was also unusual for K-line.

I was wondering if K-line put these options in other locomotives.
I have quite a few and rarely do they come with manuals and when they do, they are generic TMCC instructions.
Thanks in advance.

3/22/151:24 PM

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FfffredddOGR Forum Member

4-6-6t. Typo

3/22/151:25 PM

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GregMOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

The speed step options were included in all the cruise models including the upgrade kits. The "Steam Locomotive Instruction Sheets" I have handy do not have anything on changing the "chuff" rate.

I set all my K-Line engines to the 128 steps setting.

3/22/151:57 PM

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FfffredddOGR Forum Member

For the 4-6-6t

Adjusting Chuff Settings.
dir, wstl, aux1,#
# is the numeric key 1,2,3 or 4

3/22/152:13 PM

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GGGOGR Forum Member

CAn you PDF those and post here. Than we can get to the reference section. I would like to see those too. G

3/22/157:07 PM

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GregMOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I'm not sure who was being asked but here are the directions for setting the speed steps on K-Line cruise.

quote:From the K-Line "Steam Locomotive Instruction Sheet"

The number of speed steps can be adjusted by pressing the following sequence on the CAB-1: DIR, BELL, AUX1, then either 1, 2, or 3. Each button should be held for one full second. This sets the number of steps between stopped and full speed. Press the Bell button again to turn off the bell.

32 STEPS: DIR, BELL, AUX1, 1 (factory setting)
128 STEPS: DIR, BELL, AUX1, 2
256 STEPS: DIR, BELL, AUX1, 3

3/22/157:17 PM

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Dave_COGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

The tank engine was the only one with selectable chuff. Both of my Berkshires and my Pacific were converted to selectable chuff. These engines had this capability but came with a cherry switch to control the chuff. 2 chuffs per rev. . It involves removing the switch and a little re wiring. Some programming of the board is required as well. Sort of like setting up an EOB. If interested I have the instructions. Hit my email and I can send them out.

3/22/157:23 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Did you look at the TMCC/Legacy Reference Manual Thread?

3/22/157:31 PM

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FfffredddOGR Forum Member

Hi John, I can PDF the k-line manual.
Supposedly it came in three versions. conventionalwith cruise, TMCC with cruise, and 2 rail without sound or smoke.

Another odd thing. The manual says that this K-line with cruise will not MU in reverse as an end unit.
I wonder if this applied to all K-line cruise engines.

3/22/159:15 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

I believe that it applies to at least most K-Line cruise versions. Jon Z. from Lionel pointed out that K-Line doesn't use the PWM outputs from the R2LC to sense direction. That being the case, it doesn't know if it's coming or going. Running alone is no problem, but in an MU it can get confused. Since it doesn't have any direction information from the R2LC, it would always start in forward, hence the warning about the MU in reverse as the end unit.