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I was previously having an issue with this locomotive where the rear set of drive wheels wouldn't turn, but reversing direction a couple of times always took took care of it. After opening up the unit, I also noticed that the rod in the rear motor is not flush like the rod in the front one. The rear set is the one that occasionally didn't want to turn when the locomotive was still running. Not sure why reversing directions once or twice would help here, but I would be curious to hear any possible explanations.

However now the locomotive won't move at all. I've tested in command and conventional mode. Lights, sound, direction, and electrocoupler all work fine, it just won't move. I can manually rotate the tops of the motors and see the drive wheels slowly move, so I don't think motors/drive rods/etc are seized up. I've tried reprogramming the locomotive as described in Lionel's documentation as well as the AUX1 + 0 reset. Neither one seemed to make any difference. I also tried reseating many of the boards and connectors inside, but that didn't help either.

I've read some other posts on the forum about this kind of issue and it's sounded like the culprit is usually the DCDR or motor driver board as it's not likely that both motors died at the same time. The DCDR board is labeled (visible in the 3rd attached image) and sits between the motors, but there are two other boards at the rear of the locomotive as well. Can anyone help me identify the other boards and some next steps for debugging?

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Well, I actually see two boards unless you're counting the motherboard.  All of the boards are bog standard Lionel boards, easy to get. 

First step is to make SURE that all the connections to the DCDR are good and you actually have power to the DCDR.  The red arrow points to the power and motor connection, make sure you have track power, ground, and good connections to the motors.

The blue arrow points to the PWM inputs from the R2LC, make sure that cable is good and you have continuity for all the pins.

Next, unplug the black power/motor plug from the DCDR.  Connect a DC power supply (between around 3V and 6V) do one of the motors, and have the wheels suspended or on rollers.  If both of the motors don't run, that's the first thing to sort out.  If they do, then we move on.

This board is an R2LC-C08, you can try swapping it with another TMCC locomotive to see if that helps.  If not, then the DCDR is likely the suspect.

If you need a DCDR, drop me a line to my profile address, I have a bunch of them.  From the description of stalling the motors, you could have cooked the triacs on the DCDR.

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Thanks for your detailed reply, John. I was definitely counting the motherboard as the third board 

Connectors to the DCDR look ok. I measured 17+ VAC across the black/red pins of the black connector with track powered up, and both motors turned when I connected 3V DC (2x AA batteries) to the brown/gray pins. I ohm'd out the four wires on the PWM connector from the R2LC and got a beep and very small resistance reading for each.

I swapped the R2LC-C08 board with one from another locomotive and the behavior was exactly the same - lights, sound, direction, couplers all worked but no motion.

It seems the DCDR board is to blame. What typically "cooks the triacs" on a DCDR?

Would it be better to get an ERR Cruise Commander board instead of another Lionel DCDR? Are there any downsides I should consider? I love the idea of adding cruise and smoother low speed to my locomotives. Looks like the Cruise Commander M would fit the Big Boy.

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If you want to add cruise, for sure the CC-M is the way to go, it's close to a drop-in replacement.  You just have to run one wire from the CC-M to pin 24 of the R2LC socket.

What kills the triacs are usually an overload, but it does take quite a bit to do the job.  I'd check all the wiring closely for any pinched wires that might short to the frame.

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