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Purchased an older Lionel 44T switcher for yard use. Was able to get directional headlamp lighting by tying into the e-unit with a diode & resistor on each side. My problem, is I want to install a flashing roof beacon on the cab. I've tried several different approaches including flashing yellow LED's, but they'll function on the stationary setting, but as soon as the motor is engaged they stop. I am picking up the power for it before the e-unit, directly from the track, but because the input level fluctuates depending on track voltage I have no way to regulate the input voltage thru the bridge rectifier. I've tried voltage regulators (7805 & 7812) with the supposed proper resistors but with no success. The LED I've chosen has a working voltage of 1.9-2.1 fwd voltage with 20ma. 

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It sounds like you are using variable AC track power for the loco and thus the LED flasher(?).  Is this a case where having a buck-boost circuit (along with a bridge rectifier) would provide the stable DC voltage needed for the flasher?  I don't know how sensitive they are to input voltage, but it sounds like the current draw through the motor drops the voltage enough to make the flasher inoperable.

 

As has been discussed recently on other fora, there are buck-boost boards available on eBay for very little money and they have adjustable voltage outputs.

Here's a simple circuit that will do the trick and regulate it properly for most any track voltage from around 5 volts and up.  I'd pick a resistor of 75-80 ohms for the flasher.  Since this is a constant current circuit, you don't have to worry about the exact operating voltage of the flashing LED.

 

 

Constant Current LED Driver Filtered with LM317

 

 

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Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Since this is a constant current circuit, you don't have to worry about the exact operating voltage of the flashing LED.

 

Do these flashing LEDs draw a fixed current (when on and off)?  I'd think some would draw less current when off, more current when on.  IF such is the case then a constant current circuit will attempt to force the programmed current (16mA using your suggested R) by increasing the voltage to the LED when the LED is off.  This voltage could go above 20V with command voltage on the track.  I'd think there might be an issue with maximum allowed voltage to the LED or perhaps power dissipation in a tiny LED with >20V and 16mA going into it.  In my opinion of course!

I've powered them with the CL2, but that's an interesting question.   They do draw less when they're off I would imagine.

 

This may be a place where the constant voltage would be better. Just sticking a LM7805 in place of the LM317 (with wiring changes of course), and a series 100 ohm resistor would do the trick.  I know you need filtered DC for these, so you have to include a capacitor.

 

 

 

 

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