Legacy Steam Engines that operate on 036 Fast Track

J Scott,

   I believe you will find more than just those few, I do caution you however to test any engine you purchase, my new Legacy Shay does run on 036 curves, however to pull rolling stock with it, thru 036, I needed to make some modifications to the back stairs of the Shay Engine.  If you can, have the store where you purchase the new Legacy Engine test run it on 036 track, while pulling some rolling stock, to make sure the engine acts like you want it to, so it will run perfectly on your 036 min layout. 

PCRR/Dave

 

The modified back stairs on the Legacy Shay to accommodate all rolling stock on 036 curves.  Lionel should probably incorporated this modification, if they update the Legacy Shay.

So I tried to search Lionels web site, but they do not allow a way to filter engines by minimum curve.  I did a legacy/tmcc steam filter and got 363 engines.  I then tried to search within the current list for O-36, I got nothing.  I found 24 engines when I searched using O-31 within the current Legacy/TMCC filter. 

 

On MTH's web page, I put in 0-31 steam into the product locator and found every engine that fit that description.  Lionel needs to improve their search.

 

Miken,

   I agree with you 100%, here is a little trick for you however, if an engine or rolling stock is listed 027 it will run on all Lionel 027 & O Gauge track, including the 022 switches and 027 switches.  It seems to be the only absolute Lionel has ever done.

Unfortunately this only helps a little and Unfortunately I have not seen any 027 Legacy yet. 

PCRR/Dave 

I also found the 8 drive wheel steamers, even in semi scale(traditional) push or have wheel flange friction in the 036 curve.

 

So, I would say the x-8-x will be iffy and any x-6-x should work, with the caveat that you could have issues like Pine Creek.

I have the legacy southern crescent. Runs fine on my O-36. Including switches. I use fastrack.

I have the Lindbergh Atlantic and the PRR LionMaster T1 both are Legacy and run fine on my O36 Fastrack curves.

Thanks to you all for your information.  i have put in a 072 loop but most of my layout is 036 so I want to find some legacy steam that will handle the 036. 

I think the Lindbergh Atlantic and any of the LionMaster line are supposed to run on O31 curves.  I know my Lindbergh Atlantic was able to do it, I never tried the LionMaster T1-Duplex, but I assume it would as well.

 

J Scott,

   As you can see there are a lot more Legacy steam engines that will run on 036 than you might think, and as Guns points out some even run on 031.  As I advised before,

make sure you have the store test them out for you, before they are shipped so you know exactly what you are getting.

PCRR/Dave

 

Hi friend with the tighter radius to work with, there are many choices, The 4-4-2 Legacy Atlantics, most all of the 10 Wheelers, and there are many LionMaster engines designed for tight radius... Its a fun time to run trains in Legacy. Happy Railroading

I have 2 Legacy Steam Engines that run on O-36, the Chicago Alton Limited Pacific and the Legacy Pilot Pacific.  Both of these run effortlessly on Fastrack and on /Fastrack Switches.  All LionMaster Steam Locomotives run on Fastrack, you just have to carefully read which ones are TMCC and which ones are Legacy equipped.

My 990 arrived but I have nothing to test it with. I am hoping I can find an engine at my LHS this week end. My LC+ still running fine. I still need to get a PM and PM bridge to run my conventionals. 

 

One step at a time. 

If you have the 990 you just need the Legacy Powermaster. You do not need a bridge.

 

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I run my Legacy LionMaster Challenger steam engine on 31 curve and operates just fine.

the G Man,

    I have not tried it yet, however my New Legacy Shay, after I modified the back stairs, may also run on 031 pulling a consist.  I have not tried it just yet, but it sure looks like it will run thru the 031 RealTrax curves without even binding.  We will give it a try before I take the Christmas layout down.

PCRR/Dave   

As Miken says, the Legacy PowerMaster is the better choice.  First off, it'll be more responsive as there isn't an extra step in getting the commands to it.  Second, it has more capability, finer speed steps, MTH macro capabilities, and better circuit protection.

Thanks Miken and Gunrunnerjohn, I thought I had to have a PM Bridge to talk to the PM.

I how understand that the New Legay PM will talk to the 990 base just fine.

I will still need 1 Legacy PM per track I want to run conventional on, right?

Yep, still need a PM for each separate track you want to control independently.  Now that the Legacy PM is out, I don't see any reason to buy the old PM units, the bridge is for folks that have a bunch of them.  I used to have the bridge and some old PM units, I sold them all when the Legacy PM came out while they still had some value.

 

Because you want to do something crazy like run TMCC/Legacy locomotives conventionally with a Cab-1 remote.  And yes, I do do that, on a regular basis.

My Vision Hudson runs around my uppermost loop, which is almost all 36" curves (Atlas).  The catalog rates it at 0-42, and I do not know if it will go through 36" switches (there are none on this loop) but it makes it around all these 36" curves without issue, just fine, although it has quite a bit of overhang, as you can see. 

 

 

Lee,

   This is exactly why I advise everyone to have the store test their new engines on 036 or 031 track to see what the new engine & tender will really run on.  Your vision Hudson is a prime example of an engine rated for one min, when it can actually run on something tighter.  It may look a little funny but still runs fine, especially without any switches.  My Legacy Shay on the other hand shows the exact opposite situation.

Having the store test the engines before you bring them home does 2 important things, 1 it assures the engine works properly and 2 shows exactly what min curves & switches the engine & tender can really handle on a repeated running basis.

PCRR/Dave

Thanks to everyone for there guidance.  I now have a Legacy Tuscan K4 (Red Arrow) ordered and have placed a pre-order for the Legacy Lionmaster Challenger in the 2015 signature catalog.