Any rumors regarding what might be included in the Lionel 2019 Catalog?
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My cynical guess: Very little L&N items and no NC&StL items.
LEGACY Dreyfuss Hudsons and 21" 20th Century Limited.
Puzzles me too John. 🤔
Curt
These days it's absolutely worth the risk of missing out on a BTO item to see what they deliver and how it all goes early on. That's my position anyways.
No quality control and broken trains.
As Mike Reagan used to tell me, trains with round wheels.
You'll all find out in about three weeks. Stay tuned.
Maybe a two phase BTO release program.......
I love that just about every reply so far has something to do with Lionel's quality control (or lack thereof)
Personally, I'd like some Strasburg items (especially no. 475, as I don't think a 4-8-0 has been done in O-Scale before)
Rumor of 2020 for Strasburg loco, i heard.
TrainMan1225 posted:Personally, I'd like some Strasburg items (especially no. 475, as I don't think a 4-8-0 has been done in O-Scale before)
Done by 3rd Rail several years ago. It is a beautiful model. I only wish you had a choice of Cab#s with 3rd Rail. It seems to be the luck of the draw when they ship.
I have preordered four diesel engines from Lionel and Mth and have not had any problems with any of them. Most recently the Lionel NS 1111 SD70ACE no problems.
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Looking forward to my 2nd year in O-Gauge. I'm excited about the catalog but I'm a little aprehensive because of all the hollering. What can I do? No real LHS opportunities for me so it's all an Internet dice-roll. More to the point, I don't know any rumors but I selfishly hope for midwest regional roadnames.
2012ford posted:I have preordered four diesel engines from Lionel and Mth and have not had any problems with any of them. Most recently the Lionel NS 1111 SD70ACE no problems.
Seems like there are few Lionel diesels with problems. Steam seems to be the issue for Lionel. My one complaint is that on Lionel's barcode unit (1111), the number doesn't function as an actual barcode. 
Be wary when you pre-order Lionel steam.
TM Terry posted:My cynical guess: Very little L&N items and no NC&StL items.
Lots of Pennsylvania and Santa Fe stuff, though!
Ok, so I bought four new production Lionel engines this past year. Two had problems and were taken care of by the dealers. Both problems were computer board ones. I have two more on order, due out in February .
We live by computers and we die by computers. I am using one to type this message., after all.
I also bought several older non-computer run engines off Ebay and they run great. But, of course, they have fewer features which is fine with me .
The world we live in. There are plenty of product choices available out there if you look, especially considering older, less sophisticated engines, mostly like new and performing just great.
Life is good. Happy New Year, everyone.
Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs.
I was just asking about any intel on the 2019 Catalog. I had hoped some might have some inside info. Not my intent for bashing.
Alabama Joe posted:I was just asking about any intel on the 2019 Catalog. I had hoped some might have some inside info. Not my intent for bashing.
You're good, Joe.
Should be hearing some news soon.
Happy New Year!
I still say assembly instructions and glue!
There will be no more BTO
It will now be BBO. (Built by owner)
irish rifle posted:Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs.
This is wonderful news. I hope there’s truth in these words.
I'm hoping for a Legacy Lionmaster Cab Forward. It would (could) be the perfect birthday present to myself for when I turn 70 in December, 2019!
Randy_B posted:These days it's absolutely worth the risk of missing out on a BTO item to see what they deliver and how it all goes early on. That's my position anyways.
Agreed! Lesson learned the HARD WAY via the "school of Hard Knocks!
irish rifle posted:Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs.
Ahem, those trucks were not all die cast. They are sheet metal with die cast side frames. A far departure from Atlas O die cast trucks, K-Line die cast trucks, and MTH die cast trucks.
Its time for some more commuter rail and 21st century trains. I would like to see lionel make a run of additional amtrak cabbages painted in several of the phase 4 schemes that are seen today Ex: standard wave, Downeaster, 90208/90221 veterans.
Also, I think a run of LEGACY HHP-8s will be wicked cool. Count me in. These could be made to display MARC and AMTRAK schemes. I understand that licencing would be needed from Marc but since thats not my field of work, all I can say is that at least the tooling for the electric already exists. (or at least I hope it still does)
I would like to see some new modern diesels with new tooling like a sd70m or tier 4 et44ac.
prrhorseshoecurve posted:irish rifle posted:Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs.
Ahem, those trucks were not all die cast. They are sheet metal with die cast side frames. A far departure from Atlas O die cast trucks, K-Line die cast trucks, and MTH die cast trucks.
Appreciate the technical correction. I should have said "die-cast metal sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs." The hope is that the rumor is correct, as the former Lionel trucks and couplers are vastly superior to the ones Lionel is currently manufacturing.
I don't know what will be in this catalog. At this time probably only those directly associated with Lionel know.
What I hope to see in this catalog are more AFT cars, especially the Showcase cars.
2012ford posted:Most recently the Lionel NS 1111 SD70ACE no problems.
Only thing that would be wrong with it would be the paint color if you didn’t get NS.... Black and White is hard to mess up.
CAPPilot posted:I don't know what will be in this catalog. At this time probably only those directly associated with Lionel know.
What I hope to see in this catalog are more AFT cars, especially the Showcase cars.
If this is the case then I will have to pre order for the completion of this set.
Hoping for a scale abandoned toy car... Journal covers or not.
Still hoping for a LionChief Plus Baby K4... and a matching L1 using the same tooling.
Jon 
A Lionchief Plus GG1 or 773 Hudson would be great!
i mentioned both to Ryan K last year...it seemed to stike a chord with him. Maybe one day...
If the catalog pages are bound into the spine as well as their couplers stay connected to each other, we'll have 200 or so loose sheets.
I would like to see more LC+ though and possibly an ERR board & remote that converts postwar engines to a similar LC+ radio control.
And the two Union Pacific Add-on sets.
I don’t expect me to buy anything from the new Lionel catalog. I have the MTH Railking 611 with the “Spirit of Roanoke” on order. I’m looking at the never done before Thomas and Friend cars and a SP A6 from the Volume 2 Catalog
irish rifle posted:Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs.
Probably more like a loss of anticipated sales.
If they go back to the nicer and proven design, that would be great. The only detail still needed are air hoses like the competition supplies.
We just need to collect some combination door 40-50’ box cars. Lionel started with one ice reefer but never continued. The bottom door guide holes are there to do this, planned by the former PS Series car designer guys. Unfortunately they were used and then kicked out the door by Lionel Mgmt. after designing the GOOD scale products. Maybe the newer replacement staff has enough insight to offer and carry on the door variety designs that were planned?
I will wait and see who comes up with something new to buy first. I have plenty of the same old cookies offered each year, don’t need anymore.
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I'd second the request for a Lionchief+ retrofit for non-command locos. Anything New Haven, New York Central, Great Northern or Burlington Northern would be of interest.
Vision Line Hudson, New Haven legacy diesel or electric locomotive and anything Wabash!
