Did anyone decide on which up version they're going to get out of the 4? I'm having a hard time trying to decide which one I want to order. I have my thoughts on #69 or 65 because of the darker trucks but I love the green hood and the big union pacific letting on the tender of #69
I may order the Pennsylvania version.
@Matthew posted:Did anyone decide on which up version they're going to get out of the 4? I'm having a hard time trying to decide which one I want to order. I have my thoughts on #69 or 65 because of the darker trucks but I love the green hood and the big union pacific letting on the tender of #69
#69 if you want prototypical. Otherwise, go with the one that grabs at you. These are going to be Great!
I ordered the army version.
I'm going with the #65 Flag Version I think. While not prototypical, if they ever would pull one out and repaint it, I think it would probably look like this. I am actually excited to see folks purchasing the "what if" versions. It certainly will be a discussion piece on your railroad. Lionel did a fantastic job with the releases here. What's not to like. I could probably see me getting the PRR version too but one is enough.
@Matthew posted:Did anyone decide on which up version they're going to get out of the 4? I'm having a hard time trying to decide which one I want to order. I have my thoughts on #69 or 65 because of the darker trucks but I love the green hood and the big union pacific letting on the tender of #69
In case it helps, here are a couple of snapshots of the TMCC version, which came with large lettering on the fuel tender:
The second photo, which is actually a video still, shows the engine at idle with the red hazard light illuminated. That goes off when the engine moves forward and the Mars light starts up instead. Smoke is coming from the diesel stack in both photos. The turbine smoke starts at about speed step 15-20. The output on both smoke outlets is less than more recent Legacy models and the turbine could do with an extra "kick" both in terms of volume and rate of exhaust, which I hope is implemented in the new version.
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@MartyE posted:I'm going with the #65 Flag Version I think. While not prototypical, if they ever would pull one out and repaint it, I think it would probably look like this. I am actually excited to see folks purchasing the "what if" versions. It certainly will be a discussion piece on your railroad. Lionel did a fantastic job with the releases here. What's not to like. I could probably see me getting the PRR version too but one is enough.
Love this version also mainly because of the flag and I'm thinking the dark color trucks might look really cool over the silver ..man this is hard lol I also love the Pennsylvania and the Grey UP version #67
@Matthew posted:Love this version also mainly because of the flag and I'm thinking the dark color trucks might look really cool over the silver ..man this is hard lol I also love the Pennsylvania and the Grey UP version #67
Lionel definitely made it hard to choose just 1 but I'm holding firm. LOL!
@Hancock52 posted:In case it helps, here are a couple of snapshots of the TMCC version, which came with large lettering on the fuel tender:
The second photo, which is actually a video still, shows the engine at idle with the red hazard light illuminated. That goes off when the engine moves forward and the Mars light starts up instead. Smoke is coming from the diesel stack in both photos. The turbine smoke starts at about speed step 15-20. The output on both smoke outlets is less than more recent Legacy models and the turbine could do with an extra "kick" both in terms of volume and rate of exhaust, which I hope is implemented in the new version.
Thanks for sharing those pictures definitely helps. 🤔
@Phoebe Snow Route posted:I may order the Pennsylvania version.
The Pennsylvania would look really cool in a lashup with my single stripe green vision line GG1
@MartyE posted:Lionel definitely made it hard to choose just 1 but I'm holding firm. LOL!
Please also get the Greyhound version so I can - and be more confident that it will actually be built! 
@Hancock52 posted:Please also get the Greyhound version so I can - and be more confident that it will actually be built!
Personally I think all 4 UPs will be built. I think they all represent the UP well. Looking at the catalog, they all represent very well. I'd be surprised if any of these are cancelled. The Acelas though I'm just not sure of.
@MartyE posted:Personally I think all 4 UPs will be built. I think they all represent the UP well. Looking at the catalog, they all represent very well. I'd be surprised if any of these are cancelled. The Acelas though I'm just not sure of.
Agreed. Still trying to figure which of 61, 65 or 69 I'd want. Is it just me or does 69 look more orange than 61 and 65? I saw the tender lettering size difference but my daughter asked why the one "looked more orange". Anyone know why this may be the case?
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I noticed the same thing and was attracted to the more orange look.
I ordered mine.
The Rio Grande to run in front of the Ski Train Cars.
The Alaska because I have a thing for ARR and have almost everything Lionel every made.
Neither are clos to prototypical but then again, "Toy Trains!" I just hope they both get made.
@hirailsteve posted:Agreed. Still trying to figure which of 61, 65 or 69 I'd want. Is it just me or does 69 look more orange than 61 and 65? I saw the tender lettering size difference but my daughter asked why the one "looked more orange". Anyone know why this may be the case?
Please go for 67 (Greyhound) instead so I can get off the fence. Yes, the 69 illustration looks more orange but I would NOT go by that as indicating a different color unless it’s expressly confirmed by Lionel. These catalog illustrations are only mock-ups and I expect the UP versions to be the same UP yellow (apart from 67, which is what everybody should go for).
P.S. I am sure that Lionel appreciates (or should) all this attention being “riveted” so to speak on these pages of the catalog.
@Chris Lord - I was planning on running the Rio Grande Turbine as the head for the Ski Excursion set as well. I do wish the Rio Grande text on the tender was larger.
I seem to be the only one who is strongly considering the Dept of Defense version... I’m also going to order one of the UP proto versions but I think the DOD version looks awesome!! I’ll have it pull my Battlefield of Honor series boxcars...
@BHalfway posted:I seem to be the only one who is strongly considering the Dept of Defense version... I’m also going to order one of the UP proto versions but I think the DOD version looks awesome!! I’ll have it pull my Battlefield of Honor series boxcars...
I have already put my order in for the department of defense.
@A. Wells posted:@Chris Lord - I was planning on running the Rio Grande Turbine as the head for the Ski Excursion set as well. I do wish the Rio Grande text on the tender was larger.
It's not to late to ask Ryan if it could be scaled up. It's a fantasy scheme anyways!
@Bruk posted:Its a deal breaker for me. I’m sure it will perform well. But id rather wait and spend a little more on a proper looking cab/nose.
But who's gonna be making 1?
@Matthew posted:I noticed the same thing and was attracted to the more orange look.
Its gonna be same color as other up yellow turbines. The artwork is just off.
@tom21pa posted:Its gonna be same color as other up yellow turbines. The artwork is just off.
I asked our friends at Lionel and they confirmed they'll be the same color.
@A. Wells posted:@MartyE - Who's Ryan?
Ryan Kunkle from Lionel. @Conrail6358
Because its such an unusual Monstah..Ill stick with prototypical Im going with the #69..love the silver trucks and larger tender letters..if the SP had silver trucks Id do that I think
If really like the department of defense one too. But I’m not getting two so deciding between prototypical and department of defense leaning towards prototypical
... I’m leaning towards the 65 with the flag. Liking that one. Like that green hood too but I think 65 might win out
@Bruk posted:Its not who, but when it was made.
That's interesting; care to explain? I know that Verandas have been made in brass but HO scale. Not aware of a brass one in O scale.
@Dave Olson Dave any way you could offer a scale pilot for the Veranda? No doubt those of us that swap the lobster claws for kadees are in the minority. I imagine those that do convert to Kadees would be happy to purchase as a separate sale item if that makes it production more plausible. Thanks for considering!
@Hancock52 posted:That's interesting; care to explain? I know that Verandas have been made in brass but HO scale. Not aware of a brass one in O scale.
Overland Models has made many versions of the Turbines in O scale back in 1980’s here is an example:
https://www.brasstrains.com/Br...eranda-Union-Pacific
They have all the proper cab, windows & headlight proportions.....
@Bruk posted:Overland Models has made many versions of the Turbines in O scale back in 1980’s here is an example:
https://www.brasstrains.com/Br...eranda-Union-Pacific
They have all the proper cab, windows & headlight proportions.....
Ah, OK, now I see your point.
But aren't you waiting for **** to freeze over? I regard the original Lionel Veranda as a classic and applaud their (belated) decision to reissue it in a Legacy version.
In any case, I wasn't aware of these O scale Overland UP turbine models. And yeah, again, I see your point. Would you convert one to Legacy/TMCC? (I am not going to confess which of their O scale UP engines I have - I'm scared to touch it.)
@Hancock52 posted:Ah, OK, now I see your point.
But aren't you waiting for **** to freeze over? I regard the original Lionel Veranda as a classic and applaud their (belated) decision to reissue it in a Legacy version.
In any case, I wasn't aware of these O scale Overland UP turbine models. And yeah, again, I see your point. Would you convert one to Legacy/TMCC? (I am not going to confess which of their O scale UP engines I have - I'm scared to touch it.)
I to applaud them bringing it back. But if they bring it back they might as well fix almost everything. Make it right and up to todays detail standards.
I would not throw out the idea out of “upgrading” it to Lionel electronics or full on DCC conversion.
