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I recently purchased a collection of trains from an estate from a person who lived in Long Island, and purchased a lot of items at Madison Hardware.  (This is evident from the newspapers used to wrap many of the pieces and some of the original boxes have the "Madison Hardware" stickers and I even found some small "Madison Hardware" envelopes holding small train parts.

Among the pieces was this "Firefighting Instruction Car #6530".  I was just about to sit down and clean it up and noticed something odd.  According to the description from both Greenberg & Doyle, the car is "unpainted" body and doors.  (Although Greenberg mentions something about a "prototype" in another volume which I don't currently own).  

Based on the pictures I just took, one can see that this shell was a BLUE #3530 Mobile Power GM car painted RED.  The doors are painted WHITE!  Does anyone have further insight?  I would to find out what I have.  

Thanks,

Greg

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My guess is that it is a first stamping of the lettering.  3530 was out of production by the time the 6530 was being made. So Lionel must have had some 3530 shells around so the tested the heat stamp lettering process on a painted over shell. To me a prototype has decals or glued paper for review.  Nice piece, and odd because it is a 3530 shell stamped 6530. You see where Lionel used up old production items, like the 1955 version of the black and yellow painted Virginian Trainmaster, but that was not pre stamped. Early 1960's times were getting tough for Lionel so any penny they could save was an opportunity.

Just my opinion, great item and is a jewel to any collection!

I don't think it's a prototype, because the white lettering appears to be heat stamped. I do think you have an unusual piece that many collectors, myself included, would be happy to own.
Back in the crazy days, who knows what sort of money it would have fetched. Today, who knows!?!

Lionel did repaint shells and frames on occasion.
I doubt it was put together by Madison Hardware.

You mention - (Although Greenberg mentions something about a "prototype" in another volume which I don't currently own). 

Have green greenberg's volume 1 in it under 6530 at the end of description it mentions this

See also factory prototypes and errors in volume II,behind the scenes (second edition).

Perhaps someone here has that edition and could post what it says or maybe that edition could be found at one of the large bookstore where you could look it up .

Hope you find out what you have if you do please let us now.

Thanks

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