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I saw the same thing too. I think as time goes on, there will be more and more deals like that.  The O gauge base is shrinking and more and more trains are still being made, people pass on and leave their train collections to their children who have no interest in them and give them to a auction house and get what ever they can for them. Supply is well in excess of demand., and there are bound to be more good deals coming down the track.

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Sam,

Being black instead of the correct color didn't help it any plus it has the old AC Pullmor motor and tiny white wall pilot wheels. That was a fair price.

Lionel black CV Hudson s-l1600

 How many times has Lionel re-run this engine in various colors? When they told us in the dealer preview tour that we were wrong and their original light gray color with nearly invisible silver lettering was correct that didn't help sales either. 

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Pete, it looks great running there! Post us a video clip please!!

I was just answering Sam's question with possible reasons. Unless you can get two or more folks willing to pay a lot most auctions don't climb much. And the new ones listed are so high you could be them at most stores for the ebay asking price.

Norton posted:

Bobby, its not really black, its more like Charcoal Gray. No idea if its a match for the real deal though but its closer than any of the other offerings.

Pete

 

Pete, will it actually pull all those passenger cars?  Back when my dealer would NOT sell the engine and cars because he said it would not even pul the four cars that were available.

Ron

BobbyD posted:

Sam,

Being black instead of the correct color didn't help it any plus it has the old AC Pullmore motor and tiny white wall pilot wheels. That was a fair price.

Lionel black CV Hudson s-l1600

 How many times has Lionel re-run this engine in various colors? When they told us in the dealer preview tour that we were wrong and their original light gray color with nearly invisible silver lettering was correct that didn't help sales either. 

NYC Commodore Vanderbilt - 2

As Pullmor (not "Pullmore") locos go, these typically perform well and smoothly, and only improve with age - I have watched one well-used unit moving around at low speed that almost appeared to have a cruise (which it can't).

The Lionel pilot truck is available all over eBay in the scale wheel version; I bought one for mine. 3-minute swap. Even if you don't spot a "whitewall" version, the black wheel version is the same piece. You have white/silver paint and a brush...? I believe that the loco came with both pilot trucks...? I got mine used with one pilot truck. I do wish it was the "charcoal" version.

Often un-remarked these days is that this loco is still a very good model, regardless of anything else. I do think that it scales out a bit wide, but I'm not even sure of that. 

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D500 posted:

Often un-remarked these days is that this loco is still a very good model, regardless of anything else. I do think that it scales out a bit wide, but I'm not even sure of that. 

I had heard it is oversize, alas having no interest in purchasing one I've never researched it. Any NYC fans/foamers that can tell us if it is true? (And I corrected "Pullmor" lest anyone not buy one because of my spelling error)

Norton posted:
BobbyD posted:

I think this is a video you referenced. Are they MTH and Lionel cars?

https://ogrforum.com/...stream/true/Lock.mov

 

They are MTH and K-Line cars. I have Lionel cars as well and mix and match them but not in this video. They all go well together.

Pete

In the video they blend very well!

Had all the Lionel heavyweight cars that went with it and sold them to a guy in HI. I didn't pay attention and when I saw the UPS charges told him it would be a small fortune. Was able to consolidate them all into one box and saved him some serious cash. IIRC everything small to there goes by air so he got them in two days. 

MTH has "revised" their heavyweights so many times from the original Williams tool that it seems the weight varies about a pound each between certain eras of cars!

Norton posted:

It does now Ron. It didn't with the Pullmor though. It will pull even more but there wasn't room on the layout to couple them all together.

BTW no weight had been added nor special wheel treatment. If you have't already, read the whole thread. This is far from stock.

Pete

Pete, what and how did you replace the Pullmor?

Ron

PRRronbh posted:
Norton posted:

It does now Ron. It didn't with the Pullmor though. It will pull even more but there wasn't room on the layout to couple them all together.

BTW no weight had been added nor special wheel treatment. If you have't already, read the whole thread. This is far from stock.

Pete

Pete, what and how did you replace the Pullmor?

Ron

It's all in this thread.

https://ogrforum.com/...udson-stage-1?page=1

 

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