Here's another comparison for everyone's reference. Lionel's 28084 Dreyfuss Hudson actually goes very well with K-Line's 18" 1938 20th Century Limited cars. The grays are different shades, but the stripes are a very good match. Unfortunately K-Line was not around long enough to produce these in 21" length, but the 18" cars are still very nice. The car in the photo is the add-on coach I recently won off eBay, I do not actually own the core K-4670J 5-PAC set yet.