I just got a lionel UP H7 2-8-8-2 UP steamer and it is a fabulous engine. The box does not say pittman motor anymore but still just creaps along super slow on speed step 1. It takes about 1 second for the center axle to go from one gargraves tie to the next and at super smooth running. so slow it is not enough bang to couple to next car. if anyone has taken these apart what motor is lionel using nw. I always liked the pittmans as they are super torque monsters. At the current prices for articulateds pittmans (support American made) should be still in them. My Joshua lionel cowen challenger with cruise commander m and a pittman runs 2 seconds from gargraves tie to tie. It has a pittman.
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