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i checked out this book from my library about lionel trains and found a lot of cool things inside i want to share with you guys

but i also have questions

1 is the lift bridge from the postwar period available for sale 

2 could i use the bridge as an elevator and move a train from one level of track to another

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did you know lionel designed a hot metal car during the postwar period but it never went into production 

there is even a prototype picture in the book (see attachment)

i would've loved to have one if it was made

does anyone have a 12767 steam clean shop or a video of it in action

i myself want two of them for my main yard in my dream layout

 

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i know lionel made some non train items but did they ever make some medical stuff possibly used at wolfe manor

 

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Were you aware that the beautiful grey lift bridge in your photo was built for Lionel by Samhongsa of South Korea under the direction of Mike Wolf who was an advisor and supplier to Lionel from about 1989-1994. I think the counterweights would get in the way of using the bridge to raise an engine from the base level to one half way up. If you own this bridge treat it with kindness. Lionel has no parts for it.

I know threre is an old thread with the steamclean in action.  Two or more years ago Id say. I dont recall the OPs name though. There was also video links to some real versions in the  thread.

Ive seem some nice metal liftbridges at shows to save ducking under. Not for sale that I know of.????A vertical transfer table!   I think it would make for a great long term project with a huge wow factor if used with multiple levels. I think two levels are going to need a bi-level span to use both levels for running unless its strictly used as an elevator on a siding , or with a bypass  on each level. But then youre back to duck under possibly.

Dont stop dreamin'

paigetrain posted:

i checked out this book from my library about lionel trains and found a lot of cool things inside i want to share with you guys

but i also have questions

1 is the lift bridge from the postwar period available for sale 

2 could i use the bridge as an elevator and move a train from one level of track to another

 

1) to the best of my knowledge (memory may be foggy, but I recall reading about it years ago), there was only one prototype produced of the PW bridge, so it's effectively not ever available for sale.  However, the more recent lift bridge Lionel produced was closer to that style.  It's black and made mostly of metal similar to the PW prototype.  It is seen for sale regularly.  It is not as good in terms of all engines and cars clearing it though (small opening) as the larger bridge you show in the photo.  I had problems even with a small caboose not clearing with it's smokestack installed.

2) No.  the bridge would not survive more than maybe one or a handful of attempts at raising it with an engine on the span.  It is meant to move the span only.  (and as Adriatic said, the bridge structure itself would be in the way.)

Adriatic posted:

Ive seem some nice metal liftbridges at shows to save ducking under. Not for sale that I know of.????A vertical transfer table!   I think it would make for a great long term project with a huge wow factor if used with multiple levels. I think two levels are going to need a bi-level span to use both levels for running unless its strictly used as an elevator on a siding , or with a bypass  on each level. But then youre back to duck under possibly.

Dont stop dreamin'

There was (is?) a company called AAA Turntables that makes very sturdy gigantic lift bridges for this purpose.  (they also make turntables and coal accessories)  These are many times larger than the standard Lionel bridges (you could not fit most in a car or even small SUV), but they are meant for raising so people can walk under.  They brought a few examples to York over the years.  I think if you want one, they are made to order (they are also not cheap, probably several thousand dollars a piece, but most likely very much worth it if you have a need/desire for a functional lift bridge that you can walk under).

Somewhere a while back there was a magazine article about using something like a garage door opener motor drive to raise and lower a long section of track to allow storage tracks to be driven onto the layout.  It was quite elaborate and needed sturdy tracks to run on similar to a garage door if I recall.  Something similar could probably be used to change between levels, but it's going to be  a lot more work than it's probably worth for most people.

-Dave

The idea of modifying the lift bridge to act as an elevator is intriguing.  A whole new structure out of, say, Erector might be easier to construct rather than re-purposing the Lionel.

The wheel grinder/steam washer makes an amusing interactive accessory.  The kids will be fighting over who gets to operate it's functions.  Stock up on smoke fluid and Zippo flints.

Bruce

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