Is it possible to remove the bunting from the engine and tender?
If so, it is designed to come off or do you have to cut/pry it off?
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You could probably get the black bunting off of the locomotive if you remove the hand rails and slide it off. That said, by removing the hand rails you risk damaging them. It would probably be a safer bet to snip it off strategically.
However…
The tender has it fastened to the shell, but I’m not sure how it’s attached exactly. There would likely be holes left behind after removal.
All that said, I’d recommend avoiding this set. The tender is a 66” inch deck height from their version of the E6s. The locomotive is equipped with a stoker, and therefore has a 75” deck. The mismatch is obvious. They also borked the paint color on the tender deck, and the locomotive has the infamous “missing bushing” gearbox that will likely eat itself alive if run too frequently.
@rplst8 posted:You could probably get the black bunting off of the locomotive if you remove the hand rails and slide it off. That said, by removing the hand rails you risk damaging them. It would probably be a safer bet to snip it off strategically.
However…
The tender has it fastened to the shell, but I’m not sure how it’s attached exactly. There would likely be holes left behind after removal.
All that said, I’d recommend avoiding this set. The tender is a 66” inch deck height from their version of the E6s. The locomotive is equipped with a stoker, and therefore has a 75” deck. The mismatch is obvious. They also borked the paint color on the tender deck, and the locomotive has the infamous “missing bushing” gearbox that will likely eat itself alive if run too frequently.
Thanks for the advice... I am looking for absolutes on the bunting, I've seen one without it and the handrails and tender looked fine so hopefully someone who has done it can share.
For the tender, that is the actual as-built tender on the early K4s and I actually like that look on them (not as much as the Kesiel tender they had late 20s - retirement).
I would take care of the paint issues myself, the only concern would be the gearbox as you mentioned...
The bunting can be removed but you end up with holes from where it was mounted. I looked at this set hard, specifically for the engine and was going to remove the bunting. But decided to pass because I didn’t like the bunting or holes left after it was removed.
@Prr7688 posted:Thanks for the advice... I am looking for absolutes on the bunting, I've seen one without it and the handrails and tender looked fine so hopefully someone who has done it can share.
For the tender, that is the actual as-built tender on the early K4s and I actually like that look on them (not as much as the Kesiel tender they had late 20s - retirement).
No, unfortunately it is the wrong tender. It has roughly the same shape (lower profile with no raised coal bunker) but the early K4s had a tender with a 70" deck (before they installed stokers), class 70P70. The tender included with the WGH K4s is a 70P66, which is what was included with the E6s.
They are very close, but the deck height, coal capacity, and over all length are different.
