Lionel ZW-L shipping moved to September! Arghh

Well alot has been on time or earlier so give 'em some credit.  Better to be correct than you being mad when you have issues.

 

It does stink though that these are taking so long.

The rotary Coal Tipple has been pushed back again from Aug to Dec.

 

However the UP 9000 4-12-2 shipped really fast after being cataloged.  Too Fast for the wallet.

 

Lionel has been shipping alot of product for the first half of the year.  Overall not bad, unless the ONE item you are dearly waiting for is the one that is pushed back.

 

Jim

I asked J. Don Reese of Lionel at the TCA convention last weekend and he told me the ZW-Ls were in production.

 

Neal Jeter

If they were in production in June then a Sept. delivery date is right on the mark.

Lionel may have been shipping faster, but the one item we want from may still has not shipped. peanuts box car  

That's weird because I thought I saw a post on here where someone said Mike from Lionel told them the zw-l's were already on the water.  Why would it be September then?  I also saw the blue comet passenger cars are pushed out, but Charles Ro still says they will be shipping them next week.  I don't think anyone knows.

I said that.  Maybe I was mistaken and he said he thought they were on the water.  Regardless they'll be here when they're here.

Not mad but rather disappointed.  I guess it will be easier on the wallet now that it is pushed out.  I was completely overwhelmed from the lightning fast shipment of the of the UP 4-12-2.  I think they made that before it was even cataloged! 

 

I agree with Marty in that I did remember a video of the ZW-L and a Lionel rep was saying it was on the water....

I never really understood statements like that.  What difference does it matter whether it comes in now or November?  Theoretically you should already have that money accounted for.  Unless of course you belong to the "Fuzzy Mathematicians of America" like my ex and you try to play games.

 

Why do they save all the good stiff until year end when Christmas is coming and money is tight!

I think Lionel do right to wait until they think the new product is absolutely perfect.  I have to admit that all Lionel products (I have buy about 10) exceptfor the CN trackmobile always have something to work on.  It can be a glass to put glue on to open the engine to connect wiring, nothing big but always something.

 

But the most important for Lionel is this:  Do I prefer Lionel than others products?  The answer is YES!  I just doesn't have enough money to buy all I want!

Of course, there is always the possibility that they were shipped on time, but the container suffered a mishap along the way. These things do happen, and you would probably be surprised at the number of containers that are lost at sea each year. 

Marty you're exactly right.  I learned the hard way many years ago not to buy on credit.  Trains are wants not needs.  NEVER buy a WANT until you have the $ set a side to pay for it.

I don't think the delay is ridiculous at all.  It may be disappointing to some but the delay might not be all Lionel's fault.  In today's "if your dumb we will make it safe for you" world, Lionel had to go through hoops to get the safety issues passed.  Blame this on Lawyers.  This unit is going to be a major addition in powering O gauge railroading and to get it right is the best thing to do.  Our wait should not be much longer, just be patient.  To others it will well worth the wait.

 

TEX

Steve

Lionel is doing the right thing.  If you have a beef with Lionel take it up with them and not here on the forum.

I just wish they would be honest about it. I tweeted them a few times and each time they said next month it will ship. They posted in the ZW-L video with Mike Reagan that it would ship in June or July. They can't possibly not really have a projection for this.

Timmy

 

Stuff happens.  Maybe it unforeseen issue with shipping.  I don't think they are being dishonest.

I wouldn't buy that unit with someone else's money, much less my own.  Wait till Sept 2013.  They may have the bugs worked out by then.  Let the buyer beware-what is that in Latin again?  It'll come to me... 

William - the Latin is "caveat emptor."

 

I get the impression this ZW will be well worth the wait.  In the June 2012 issue of the LCCA magazine, The Lion Roars, Bill Schmeelk reviewed and took apart a production model.  It is really worth reading the whole article but suffice to say it looks like Lionel did its homework and got this one right.  Based on Mr. Schmeelk's very thorough review I expect the ZW-L to be right up there with FasTrack among Lionel's hits.  Just a few points - it uses a toroidal transformer that is totally silent, runs cooler, and is more efficient. The internal parts including the throttle gears are robust - they looked like "industrial strength" components and assembly to me.  Illumination is with LEDs - it is all state of the art and well designed and assembled.

 

I really did not think I would be buying any more transformers but this looks like one that is worth getting even if I end up selling off an old one or two. 

I've never preordered with the excepton of my 2 Natty Boh cars and being away from trains for a while I wasn't aware of the ZW-L.  After reading this post and looking at the specs for the ZW-L I thought **** guess I missed out.  Any way I was in M.B. Kliens today and asked if all their orders were spoken for.  Must have been my lucky morning because one now has my name on it and they wouldn't take any money until I picked it up whenever that will be.  It's been too long since something has excited me in the o gauge world but now this 68 yr old can't wait until it arrives.  Now I can retire one of my old PW ZWs.

Yawn

For sure, Chris!

This statement about the KING of delays, MTH???  LOL!!!

If you had read the post correctly you would have seen I didn't say MTH wouldn't have delays.  Of course they will.  I said they are going to be posting dates when things are ACTUALLY SHIPPING instead of putting out dates that keep moving around and mean nothing like Lionel. 

I'd rather have an idea of when something is coming than having a 2 week warning.

Now it's pushed back to October!

Of which year?

2012, but at this rate it seems like 2112 is more likely

November now. 

Nov, Dec, Jan.....no big deal.  Never sweat the things you have no control over.

December now.

https://ogrforum.com/d...ent/9173459996570587

 

 

No need for this thread to be revived.............

Maybe you guys should merge duplicate threads to minimize confusion.  That's normally how I handle dups on forums I moderate.

WOW! I am really surprised at some of the responses! As mentioned in my post yesterday I asked for your patience while we updated and cleaned up the shipping schedule. I have been advised the current production run is scheduled for delivery in December 2012, according to our Director of Production, whom I spoke with today. Hopefully this will bring some peace to what appears to have upset the balance of patience within the industry. Thanks, Mike

For me its a blessing in disguise ... now I'm on the list to buy one. Thanks for the update Mike, and being honest with your customers.