Locomotive died

What transformer are you using?  Did you try and power up on a 'Test Track' or layout?

Does this locomotive have a battery or BCR?

Need more info

bruce

bruce benzie posted:

What transformer are you using?  Did you try and power up on a 'Test Track' or layout?

Does this locomotive have a battery or BCR?

Need more info

bruce

Powered up conventional with a cw80.  Has a battery.

Mth trains do not like the CW-80.  

Mth Has a list of compatible transformers in the back of their owners manuals. The CW-80 is NOT on that list.

RickO posted:

Mth trains do not like the CW-80.  

Mth Has a list of compatible transformers in the back of their owners manuals. The CW-80 is NOT on that list.

But when the loco died,  it was being run with a Lionel brick.

Well, I checked the model, and I have some potentially bad news. From the product page...

Delivery Status: Delivered JUL. 2000

This means it has the older 5V board, and they're pretty infamous for dying a sudden death for no apparent reason.  First step is to do some diagnostics and see if there's a possibility of reviving it.  Not much that can make them just stop like that in conventional mode.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Well, I checked the model, and I have some potentially bad news. From the product page...

Delivery Status: Delivered JUL. 2000

This means it has the older 5V board, and they're pretty infamous for dying a sudden death for no apparent reason.  First step is to do some diagnostics and see if there's a possibility of reviving it.  Not much that can make them just stop like that in conventional mode.

Hey John,

I kinda figured that it would be a bad board.  Just wondering where I could get a replacement for that model.  

Blake

There is a universal replacement board for the PS/2 boards, the PS32 board.  It's only sold direct to techs, but it exists.  You have to replace the board set and also the speaker as the old one is 16 ohms, the PS3 boards are 4 ohms.  Mounting the board may take some creativity, this is a locomotive that has the board in the locomotive, the PS32 board and carrier are a bit larger than the PS/2 5V board set.

Thank you John

If the board really doesn't fit, then a PS3 steam upgrade is the next ticket to fixing it.  That includes all the harnesses and the board mounts in the tender, lots of room.

Looks like there is very little room in the tender for either a PS2 or PS3 upgrade board including the speaker.  Your best bet, since this is a RailKing locomotive is to sell it as is and purchase a new one.  Also - read the instructions - a CW-80 is not suitable for operation of Proto Sound locomotives.  Purchase a transformer that is recommended in the locomotive instruction manual to avoid conflict and possible damage or malfunctions to the boards.

bruce

gunrunnerjohn posted:

If the board really doesn't fit, then a PS3 steam upgrade is the next ticket to fixing it.  That includes all the harnesses and the board mounts in the tender, lots of room.

John,  You forgot to include “ The know how”.  Lol

Blake,

Check this link on the 'Electrical' forum, it is about CW-80's

https://ogrforum.com/...-vs-mth-transformers

bruce

Did you try replacing the Battery??

Plenty of room in the tender if that's the way it ends up going, there's nothing but the speaker to contend with.

The challenge is fitting the board in the locomotive, hard to know until I see them if they'll fit where the PS/2 board is.

It can be repaired with a board in the shell.  I can do it, e-mail in profile. G

I presume you're already done this, so I suspect that it will fit.   Good to know.

Yes but:  Nothing is so easy as the job you imagine someone else doing.  G