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@Joe S posted:

In my opinion, the 3451 is best.  Logs tend to fall out of the other one when dumped from the loader.  The stakes on the older car tend to keep the logs where you want them.

Joe

I had just gone back to edit my answer when you posted. Yeah, I seem to recall the "messy" dump with the later ones, but there is no requirement of either type for the loaders.

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