Isn't the Lionel 2025 Vol 1 Coming out this morning? I thought there would be a long thread.
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It is on their website. You just have to go into the online catalog section. They haven't posted a direct link yet.
It's on their website now.
Neal Jeter
Thanks, I thought there would be a conversation here on the site.
It's up. I'm glad there's nothing there to suck a bunch of money out of my pockets this time versus the previous catalog. I do like the Rio Grande auto rack and a few other items, but nothing screams "gotta have it" at me.
One observation -- Lionel's heavyweight passenger car prices are crazy! They now officially cost more per car than Golden Gate Depot -- no exaggeration.
Nothing in this catalog for me. Lots of fantasy items for those looking for that.
It looks to be the year of the Hudsons and Vanderbilts. I think they are also the only ones that can afford them!
I'm probably going to order some Bob Ross items and leave it at that.
I already ordered a Hudson and I'm not digging the passenger car options.
I am impressed by how unimpressed I am.
Yea not too impressed. Knew about the vision steamers from one of the previous late in the year catalogs. I do like the vision auto carriers. Always been into the auto carriers.
Mike
The Lackawanna Trainmaster Postwar Set is 100% nostalgia for me, partially modeled after 1954's Lionel postwar set #2223W, which was originally the only way to get the now ultra-rare 6464-100 Western Pacific orange boxcar with the blue feather and accompanying box numbered 6464-250. I have my Dad's original 2223W set and still run it at Christmas.
The new set is cool but isn't the same consist. Can't do 2223W without the blue feather or gray Lehigh Valley porthole caboose. But kudos to Lionel for at least giving a nod to that original magical set.
Not impressed. My wallet is safe. Looks like Lionel is really maximizing the molds they have with all the fantasy variations. Looks like star wars is getting the same old operating cars but now in a star wars theme. I was hopping for some new legacy accessories but instead we have a command control crane for 450. I really wish they would come up with some new operating accessories and cars. The backshop was a great idea when it came out. Same for the rotary coal tipple/swing bridge/lift bridge. We need some fresh new ideas. The turbine is nice and about par for pricing. Hopefully the catalog appeals to others. Hudsons and Vanderbilts are nice if you model NY. This catalog just opens my funds to scenic details and my upper track level I've been wanting to add.
The prices on the Heislers are quite high
Not too much. I never did get my 6200 Turbine from the first Legacy run, looks like I have a chance this year. That's the only thing that I saw that might tempt me.
Nothing for me, luckily!!!
I do like the READING CRUSADER.
Hey that’s my grandson on pages 140/141 - Thanks Angela
We will probably get that car 👍🏼🤣👍🏼
I LOVE the catalog
@Greg from Texas posted:Isn't the Lionel 2025 Vol 1 Coming out this morning? I thought there would be a long thread.
Without any fanfare it just got released.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:That's not a Crusader, this is a Crusader! They forgot the streamlining that really made the Crusader what it was!
Oh my, the prices. And it's not inflation; it's just plain and simple charging more for the same product.
Check this out:
On page 186 there is the LED-decorated Mobile home from Lionel, which is $120
This is previous MTH tooling and was offered in their 2020 RTR catalog FOR $55
If you add 2025 inflation to $55 from 2020, it comes to $67.
The MTH version of these Mobile homes sell on eBay for 40 to 60 bucks.
Shopping around pays off, why pay twice as much for the same thing with the big "L" logo stamped on the bottom?
I know John. I have the MTH SET. I just like it.
I like the return of the Lionel Conventional Classics in the form of the NYC set.........
Disappointed, wish they offered NYC in the Lionchief +2.0 F3's.
For the 125th Anniversary book it's a massive let down. Prices are crazy, 2/3rds of the book is licensed boxcars, too many stupid fantasy schemes, and did I mention the prices are insane? Glad Lionel got to 125 years because if these trends continue I don't know how much longer they are going to go...
Not much. A whole section on battery operated kiddie trains? I think Polar Express has been milked for all it's worth. Star Wars trains? Really? I don't see much. Possibly the Legacy Lionel Lines Scout steam locomotive would be fun but the passenger cars offered would knock it up from the O-36 part of my railroad to the O-54. I'd like to get more use out of the O-36 with something like that locomotive.
@dorfj2 posted:Hey that’s my grandson on pages 140/141 - Thanks Angela
We will probably get that car 👍🏼🤣👍🏼
I LOVE the catalog
The boy in the painting is your grandson?
I see that Lionel has finally brought back the 15 inch aluminum passenger cars. They look great. But the price for a four car set is stunning high.
@DJ Haney posted:For the 125th Anniversary book it's a massive let down. Prices are crazy, 2/3rds of the book is licensed boxcars, too many stupid fantasy schemes, and did I mention the prices are insane? Glad Lionel got to 125 years because if these trends continue I don't know how much longer they are going to go...
said every year for the last 50+ years 
Another year passes without a PRR T-1. Disappointed.😩
@gunrunnerjohn posted:That's not a Crusader, this is a Crusader! They forgot the streamlining that really made the Crusader what it was!
The current Lionel offering makes the Boscov's K-Line Crusader set look so much better by comparison.
@rscott posted:Another year passes without a PRR T-1. Disappointed.😩
That's one that I was hoping for. But I guess there is always Volume 2.
@booker110 posted:The prices on the Heislers are quite high
I got excited when I saw the Heislers, then was shocked that the price, $1699.99. Must be some serious engineering on that tiny loco going on...
@DaddyChooChoo posted:I got excited when I saw the Heislers, then was shocked that the price, $1699.99. Must be some serious engineering on that tiny loco going on...
Would of thought that had a swinging bell in it.
@R2unit posted:Disappointed, wish they offered NYC in the Lionchief +2.0 F3's.
Wish they would have offered more Traditional line LC 2.0 stuff period. What a weak showing, Pacifics and F3s in 4 road names are all that I saw unless I missed something.
@PGentieu posted:The current Lionel offering makes the Boscov's K-Line Crusader set look so much better by comparison.
Yep, fortunately I have my Crusader. I am eyeing up the S2 Turbine.
125th Year Anniversary and I am sorry, this is the best Lionel can do? For me I’m disappointed, but my wallet is SAFE.
unhappy Lionel Addict.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:That's not a Crusader, this is a Crusader! They forgot the streamlining that really made the Crusader what it was!
That’s sweet. The under-lighting is awesome. Need more of that on these models.
Yeah was excited to see the heislers but pricing seems higher than should be. Plus missing the cool feature of the screen. Or does the ones with this stack come it as an option? I’m guessing not since previous pictures showed it in the catalogs.
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