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Has anyone attempted to change the LED lights in Menards buildings? They use a cool white temperature for their LEDs, but I like the look of soft white way better, as it is more authentic to my time period and I believe it gives off a better look on the layout. Is it easy to take these buildings apart and change them out? 

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I’ve painted leds, changed them to warm white and also reduced the voltage from the recommended 4.5v to 2.75-3v.  Dimming the existing lights is most effective for my taste.  Not so much glare and brightness.  More realistic imo.  I have mostly the older buildings which are pressed cardboard construction which is glued.  Can be taken apart with care by using putty knives/sharp knives and twisting the blade gently along the glued seam. 

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I’ve painted leds, changed them to warm white and also reduced the voltage from the recommended 4.5v to 2.75-3v.  Dimming the existing lights is most effective for my taste.  Not so much glare and brightness.  More realistic imo.  I have mostly the older buildings which are pressed cardboard construction which is glued.  Can be taken apart with care by using putty knives/sharp knives and twisting the blade gently along the glued seam. 

What type of paint worked best for changing the temperature over to warm white? 

vthokies2007-2011 posted:
TedW posted:

I’ve painted leds, changed them to warm white and also reduced the voltage from the recommended 4.5v to 2.75-3v.  Dimming the existing lights is most effective for my taste.  Not so much glare and brightness.  More realistic imo.  I have mostly the older buildings which are pressed cardboard construction which is glued.  Can be taken apart with care by using putty knives/sharp knives and twisting the blade gently along the glued seam. 

What type of paint worked best for changing the temperature over to warm white? 

Didn’t use paint for warm white, changed leds. Shown in the pics are amber paint top of red owl, and warm white used on feed supply next door.  Notice difference between red owl and feed supply warm white to menards “blue white” on red owl.  Left the red owl alone as it looks more like the fluorescent grocery store lighting.   Both building lights are run at 2.75vdc cause they are too bright any higher imo.  Most important is to get them the way you like them.

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I've found that reducing the voltage works in most cases, however if the building has an animated sign or flashing strobe it will need 3.8 - 4 volts to work properly (for instance Morton Salt).  

I haven't used the Tamiya paint mentioned, but have had good results with a yellow sharpie to soften the light.

Bruce

TEDW    I think I have found a DC-DC step down (LM2596 DC-DC step down variable volt regulator Input 3.2V to 40V Output 1.25V to 35V adjustable buck converter) at Amazon.   Is this the one in your picture ?  I was going to try using Menard's AC/DC converter which I think outputs 4.5VDC -- and splice this into output side.  I have the Menards Starbucks which is too bright for me.  Do you think that might work ?

 

Be advised that most, if not all, step-down DC-to-DC voltage regulator modules have a so-called headroom or dropout voltage; this is usually at least a Volt and possibly several Volts depending on the design.  In other words, if your input is 4.5V there is a "overhead" or "tax" such that the maximum settable output voltage might be, say, 3.5V or less.

For dimming Menards buildings, from what I have read you want somewhere around 3.9, 4.0, 4.1 Volts (plus or minus).  So this may not be achievable if starting from 4.5V DC.

That said, if you want to fine-tune the brightness, I'd start with a wall-wart of 9V or 12V DC or other readily available voltage.  Watt-for-watt, these will be less expensive than a Menards adapter.  I suppose a potential downside is you inadvertently plug a 12V adapter directly into a 4.5V Menards building and fry the LEDs. 

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For example, I don't know if the Menards pricing shown below is current as this was taken from an earlier thread but I just pasted in the eBay listing.  The assumption is you're feeding a DC-to-DC converter (or converters plural) of some type, so the matter at hand is a source of DC power or Wattage.  Should be easy to find A DC adapter on eBay for, say, 10 cents per Watt.  The Menards adapters are about 10 times that or roughly $1 per Watt.  I say converters "plural" above because you can have a single DC adapter driving multiple DC-to-DC stepdown modules so that you can fine tune different buildings to different voltages … since a DC-to-DC stepdown module might set you back $1 or so!

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By all means give it a try.  I don't know which DC-DC module you have but I found one on eBay that has the input/output voltage range you mention.  In its product description it says:

- Input voltage range: DC 3.2V to 40V (The input voltage must be 1.5V higher than the voltage to be output. Can not be boosted)
- Output voltage range: DC 1.25V to 35V voltage continuously adjustable, high efficiency (maximum 92percent) maximum output current is 3A

So in this case the headroom voltage I mention is 1.5V.  So if your input voltage is 4.5V, the output voltage should be set to 3.0V or less. In general, the headroom voltage requirement is a function of how much current you're drawing so it may be settable to a higher voltage for small building(s) with just a few LEDs.  Definitely a your-mileage-may-vary scenario.

 

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