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Welcome once again to Midweek Photos. This week, I begin the journey in Williams, AZ at the depot of the Grand Canyon Railway. 

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The steam locomotives would be waiting for us at the locomotive shops.  The first mile or so of our journey would be led by Amtrak heritage unit number 66

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We are at the photo run-by location now, and get a chance for a good look at GCR no. 4960. Thankfully, the railroad removed the toll-free number and web address from the tender.

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Backing up to get in position for the run-by.

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Here they come...

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There were at least five domes on the train.  The most photographed of them all was the lounge observation dome "Silver Solarium"  I am told this is the only one that still hits the road.

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Now, everyone is off the train after our arrival at the Grand Canyon station

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Me and my goofy grin over looking a section of the canyon.

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Santa Fe strikes a classic pose at the wooden depot before picking up the consist for the return.

My first attempt at uploading video to OGR forums.  I think it failed. Will try again if it did.  This is the southbound run-by.

Photo ops on board weren't so hot, since I was in the super dome.  Too much distortion and reflection in the tinted glass to get anything really nice.

That is my Grand Canyon steam adventure tail for now.  Please add your shots of rail activity here.  Enjoy your late Spring photography.  Summer will be here before you know it.

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 Where do you go to see an E8 in Illinois Central paint?

Answer: Upstate New York

 

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At North Creek.

 

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At North Creek, with the Hudson River in the background.

 

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Running around the train.  Soon the tracks north of here will be reopened to allow access to long dormant mines.

 

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Now at Saratoga Springs, the train is passed by the CP road freight before departing for North Creek.

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Originally Posted by Lafondue:

Interesting find....

 

Los Angeles, California, January 25, 1948: A Santa Fe Diesel passenger locomotive hangs over Aliso Street after running off the end of rails at Union Station.

 

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I always was under the impression that the engine sat on top of the trucks and was held there by the massive weigh of the engine, if that is true how come the truck of this engine did not fall to the ground below. Thanks Jim

Originally Posted by Jimmy T:
Originally Posted by Lafondue:

Interesting find....

 

Los Angeles, California, January 25, 1948: A Santa Fe Diesel passenger locomotive hangs over Aliso Street after running off the end of rails at Union Station.

 

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I always was under the impression that the engine sat on top of the trucks and was held there by the massive weigh of the engine, if that is true how come the truck of this engine did not fall to the ground below. Thanks Jim

Cables to the traction motors prevent the trucks from falling.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:

Cables to the traction motors prevent the trucks from falling.

 

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Not quite, Rusty!  The weight of that complete truck and traction motor/wheel set assembly would have ripped those TM cables right apart.

 

There are side bearing clips, on each side of the truck bolster, which keep the truck attached to the under frame. Thus, when un-trucking a unit, the first thing done is the removal of the two side bearing clips, then the TM cables are disconnected, then the flexible air brake hoses, then the rubber sand hoses.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:

Cables to the traction motors prevent the trucks from falling.

 

Rusty

Not quite, Rusty!  The weight of that complete truck and traction motor/wheel set assembly would have ripped those TM cables right apart.

 

There are side bearing clips, on each side of the truck bolster, which keep the truck attached to the under frame. Thus, when un-trucking a unit, the first thing done is the removal of the two side bearing clips, then the TM cables are disconnected, then the flexible air brake hoses, then the rubber sand hoses.

Learn something new everyday!

 

Rusty

 

From Wikipedia,


January 25, 1948: Locomotive #19L, leading the Super Chief, loses braking ability while preparing to depart Los Angeles' Union Passenger Terminal (LAUPT). The train crashes through a steel bumper post and then a concrete wall located at the end of the dead-end track, and ultimately comes to rest with the front half of the locomotive dangling 20 feet (6 m) above Aliso Street below. Although there are no injuries, the engineer loses his job over the incident.

Originally Posted by Number 90:
Originally Posted by CWEX:

I have seen that photo before, anybody know what the cause was?

The locomotive cut away from the train upon arrival and moved ahead to clear the escape track switch.  The plan was to change ends while moving, the Fireman having gone to the trailing cab.  This was against the rules, but some engine crews did it anyway, to save time.  The Engineer and the Fireman did not get it done right, and the locomotive rolled out the end of the track.  Both were fired, and later returned to work.  I used to encounter the Fireman (by then pretty high on the Engineer's seniority roster) in 1973-74 when I was forced assigned to L.A., but did not know him well enough to discuss this incident.  What I know, came from his son, who was junior to me as an Engineer.  The Engineer was a notorious grouch, who generally did not like Firemen. The Fireman was a good guy with 6 or 7 years experience at the time.

 

By the way, while pulling No. 20, the Chief, diesel 19 turned on its side in 1947, at Kincaid, when it went over a broken rail at a turnout.  The Engineer on that day was also a notorious crab.

Are there trains in Scotland?  Aye, laddie.  Indeed!  While the diesels are but-ugly, the steamers more than make up for it!  Did you know that the Scottish 10 pound bill has the Glenfinnian RR viaduct on the back?  Their 20 pound note has the Firth of Forth RR bridge on the back of it.  Photo:  Forth Bridge, Queenferry, near Edinburgh below.  The scale of it is difficult to show.  There is a passenger train on the bridge in this photo, but it is so tiny compared to the bridge it barely shows up.


Kent in Glasgow

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Originally Posted by PRR Man:

Kent,

if I remember correctly, it was the Firth of Fourth design that gave Gustave Lilenthal the confidence to propose a bridge over the North (Hudson) River to the PRR in 1900 in lieu of a tunnel.

Are you talking about the "firth Bridge", the fifth bridge, the "Forth Bridge", or the fourth bridge?

 

Are there 3 or 4 other bridges, up-river or down-river too?

Thursday of last week was the start of the Dunsmuir Railroad Days.  The train with equipment from the WP museum Portola CA arrived Wednsday evening.  Thursday we arranged the equipment for the weekends Railroad Days celebration.  UP provided their Centennial and Heritage unit UP 1996.  The WP museum provided three cabooses, three passenger cars, a box car and rare shorty coiled steel gondola along with WP 2001.

 

 

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Thanks Tim, those are great pictures.

 

Tim is on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, relatively close to the Bright Angel Trail head. 6860ft (2093m) above sea level.  The trail that you can see to Tim's left, is to Plateau Point from Indian Garden camp grounds.  Indian Gardens/Plateau Point is 3800ft(1160m). 4.8 miles from where Tim is to Indian Gardens and another 1.5 miles to Plateau Point via the trail.  The Colorado River is visible below Plateau Point.  River elevation is 2480 ft and another 3.2miles via the trail and an interesting switchback section called "The Devil's Cork Screw" .  Another 1.5 miles along the river, cross either of two bridges, to Phantom Ranch/Bright Angel Camp Ground for the evening.  

 

Hikes from the top to the river and back in one day are discouraged. Even hikes to Plateau Point and back in one day are for the experience hiker.  You are experiencing dessert deception, everything appears much closer than it is. Difference in temperature from were Tim is to the river is an easy 30 degrees.

 

The Sante Fe developed the South, though much further West of where Tim is. Hermit's Rest and Hermit's Rest Trail. There was a tram for transportation of supplies down.  Bright Angel trail was privately owned, not part of the Sante Fe experience.     

 

The Union Pacific developed the North Rim.  Rail access was to Cedar City, Utah and bus from there.  There was a loop that included Zion, Bryce and other attractions.  

 

Tim, I hope you had a good time.  The Canyon is a very special place for me.

Thank you,

Mike

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