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Hello All --

Just a heads up here for anyone who is not aware -- the long running MODEL TRAIN JOURNAL founded by the late Bill Lango,  is gone from the internet.  Its Domain has expired and it up for sale.  It was kept running by a Nephew (I think) of Bill's,  but at this point it appears said person decided to shut it down.  Here is the link -- and see what page you get (as I did)  -----------     http://www.modeltrainjournal.c...B3/viewforum.php?f=4

I was there a few days ago (near end of December) and it was up and running.  I guess the domain expired by Jan 1st, 2023.



regards - Joe F

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While not unexpected this is a shame. After bottoming out on the C?? forum and not knowing about the OGR I spent a lot of time there and was helped out a lot after returning to 3 rail. One of my prized cars in a CCC& St. Louis gondola I "won" in one of Bill's raffles (really give aways). A rowdy bunch for sure but some great modeling talent present.

Hello Bogart !

Yes, not exactly unexpected --- it had slowed down a lot in past few years and it was no longer able to facilitate a member to load photos to the site from the member's computer files --- photos had to be installed using HTML code and have a URL address to do so.  Many of the MTJ members are here also at OGR Forum, which I have been on for about 20 years now.  Bill Lango and I became friends from the beginning and he even set that "Subways" site up at my request way back during the first year or so.

Another web server that I utilized for the past 15 years to create a photo website for my O-Scale NYC EL & Trolley Layout photos and history -- WTV-ZONE -- closed its operations after 18 or so years running when their server had a major meltdown in mid December and all its system files were lost.  They did have file backups saved,  but due to diminished customer base and major costs to install new server equipment -- they decided to pack it in.

WTV-ZONE was started - as an annual customer-billed service,  by a husband and wife programmer team back around 2005 or 06,  to "rescue" users of MSN's long popular early  Webtv.net internet service which gave people WITHOUT computers, access to the internet since at least 1996,  using a box receiver (size of a VCR unit) to access and use the internet,  and their television scree to be the monitor.  It worked well in those early years until computers got bigger, more powerful,  more hi-resolution, and way larger file and storage capacity.  The webtv system became the putttering Model T Ford on the  modern highways of huge modern hi speed powerful automobiles.  And MSN finally shut it down as the receivers were not capable of being "updated" like computers were.

well, thats the story -- gone but not forgotten !  regards - Joe F

I went there briefly a number of years ago, but I didn't find the site all that welcoming.  There were a handful of pretty obnoxious posters that seemed determined to chase anyone new away.  Congrats, it worked with me.

Well, normally I wouldn't say anything if I can't say something nice ... but John hit the nail on the head.  OGR seemed to be a target of many of the posters on MTJ perhaps because they were shown out the door here on this forum.  A lot of ugly and sometimes slanderous comments were allowed which did nothing to advance our hobby.

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