He just added reading to the list of possible custom runs. Take a look
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I think it’d be cool to have a fantasy Norfolk and Western 2-8-0. In reality the N&W had 4-8-0’s, but with Lionel’s “what if” schemes and the fact that Bachmann’s HO N&W 2-8-0’s are good sellers, I think it’d do well!
I'm thinking about preordering a Western Maryland 2-8-0. I have it in MTH Premier already, so I won't be too disappointed if he doesn't get enough people on board to make the run.
I asked Mr. Muffin about an all-black scheme for a Milwaukee 2-8-0 and he replied, "All black it is".
Ordered NKP#381. Cool history of it operating for years along the line that runs through Atlanta, IN right between Mr. Muffin’s layout and shop.
I hope it makes the cut.
@N&WGuy posted:I think it’d be cool to have a fantasy Norfolk and Western 2-8-0. In reality the N&W had 4-8-0’s, but with Lionel’s “what if” schemes and the fact that Bachmann’s HO N&W 2-8-0’s are good sellers, I think it’d do well!
N&W had 2-8-0s. I think 4 still exist. 
Oh geez, that’s right! I forgot about the W Class engines 😅
@Jim Brenner posted:I asked Mr. Muffin about an all-black scheme for a Milwaukee 2-8-0 and he replied, "All black it is".
I ordered one.
Finally - a steam loco that will not require a tender repaint in the Clinton Street shops. 
For Western Maryland fans, I asked Mr. Muffin to change the road number to 840 or 850 from 734. He currently has it listed as 840 which is an authentic engine that can be found online in the "Western Maryland steam roster" ( which by the way is a great resource for WM guys) The 734 number had been produced by both MTH and Lionel around 2015. I personally do not care to model the WM scenic railroad. I want to pull long coal trains with prototypical engines. I put my pre order in for #840 today and hope 19 others do also. This number has not been previously produced by MTH. thanks speperak
@speperak posted:For Western Maryland fans, I asked Mr. Muffin to change the road number to 840 or 850 from 734. He currently has it listed as 840 which is an authentic engine that can be found online in the "Western Maryland steam roster" ( which by the way is a great resource for WM guys) The 734 number had been produced by both MTH and Lionel around 2015. I personally do not care to model the WM scenic railroad. I want to pull long coal trains with prototypical engines. I put my pre order in for #840 today and hope 19 others do also. This number has not been previously produced by MTH. thanks speperak
I thought Mr. M. had it listed as 734 when I first saw it, then today it was 840. I thought I must have been mistaken the first time. 
Thank you for asking him to change it. You were absolutely right. I have the MTH Premier 734, along with a Premier 830 and a repaint Premier numbered 844. The Legacy engine is tempting, but do I need another WM Consolidation??? I'll have to ponder on it a while longer.
@tom21pa posted:He just added reading to the list of possible custom runs. Take a look
How about a link to Mr. Muffin's current and ever-expanding list?
I Would order an N&W for sure!
Here’s the link:
https://mrmuffinstrains.com/pr...m-the-2021v2-catalog
I got the NKP, considering the Rock Island.
Thanks Mark, I am glad you agree with me. I was afraid that asking him to change the number might seem presumptuous and offend others who would want the 734. I really did not expect him to change it. On the other hand, every WM train collector I know already has the 734 or doesn't want it because it was an excursion train. Even the sounds on the MTH model are all for the scenic rail road. And again, both MTH and Lionel produced the 734 in 2015 and they are not hard to find.
Personally, I’d be more apt to buy one if it was numbered lower like for a class H-4, H-5, or H-6. They seem like a closer match than the 734 H-7a or 840 H-9 brutes.
#406 is nice
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/wm406s.jpg
#456 looks good except for the pilot
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/wm456sa.jpg
#605 looks real close
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/wm605s.jpg
rplst8, the Lionel catalog does not say what class of 2-8-0 they are trying to model. I suggested a number based on what MTH has used in the past. I do agree that the Lionel looks more like the H-6 class. I was really just hoping for anything other than 734.
@speperak posted:rplst8, the Lionel catalog does not say what class of 2-8-0 they are trying to model. I suggested a number based on what MTH has used in the past. I do agree that the Lionel looks more like the H-6 class. I was really just hoping for anything other than 734.
Totally, I get that. Just throwing some other options out there for you that aren’t 734 but might fetch some more prototypical-ish buyers.
P.S. Someone mentioned in another thread that Lionels 2-8-0 is a “Harriman style” consolidation if that helps.
Somebody said *Harriman", thought of as SP with tar burning tenders ...do these have coal fired tenders?
rplst8, I asked Mr. Muffins about changing the number to 605. I'm not sure what it will end up. The earlier H-6 did not have the fireball logo which I like. I am ordering one regardless of the number but do agree that the Lionel model does not look like an H-9.
@MrMuffin'sTrains Any hope to try for N&W to make the cut? I think we have two in this thread.....
@N&WGuy (assuming you are in too)
@hokie71 posted:@MrMuffin'sTrains Any hope to try for N&W to make the cut? I think we have two in this thread.....
@N&WGuy (assuming you are in too)
I’d definitely pre-order an N&W one!
I would consider a Rock Island for sure.
Signing up in the morning, thanks.
Just signed up but no N&W option posted as a choice yet- left a note for Mr. Muffin.
Once we get N&W posted, we need to do some marketing like the Canadian National crew did.
Pre-ordering that Canadian National one today! Though as Mr.Muffin's preorders are highly order numbers dependent, I kind of wish they had a 'pre-order counter' for each model. So you could see how close to production it is, and if you need to badger your fellow club members into getting one as well! 
The Norfolk & Western #917 is now available for pre-order!
I with 2, one Illinois Central and one for Chicago & Eastern Illinois.
@DylTrains posted:Pre-ordering that Canadian National one today! Though as Mr.Muffin's preorders are highly order numbers dependent, I kind of wish they had a 'pre-order counter' for each model. So you could see how close to production it is, and if you need to badger your fellow club members into getting one as well!
Need to implement instant runoff voting for these runs. Rank your top five, everyone votes - top ones get made. Easy peasy, george and weezy.
I have a better idea. If your road name does not make it, we all default to N&W by acclamation.
Muffins does a great job giving the people what they want and I love to see all the custom run stuff. I just wish someone, anyone would continue the "scale wheels" trend that MTH started years ago. Lionel, please listen, Atlas, please listen! There are still some 2 rail fans out there...
@rplst8 posted:Need to implement instant runoff voting for these runs. Rank your top five, everyone votes - top ones get made. Easy peasy, george and weezy.
The current system is much better: if enough people put their money where their mouths are, it gets made. The only vote that matters is a completed preorder. Now, that is easy peasy!
@Rider Sandman posted:The current system is much better: if enough people put their money where their mouths are, it gets made. The only vote that matters is a completed preorder. Now, that is easy peasy!
I was implying that the "vote" was a preorder. Sorry that didn't come across.
Having Harry letter them and weather them is a awesome option. Something I might want to get in on.
Great news and still a super deal!
I gave Mr. Muffins my order for a L&N 2-8-0 steamer, it’s going to be very nice having it professionally decorated by Harry Hieke… Wow.
