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MTH Announces Uncat. # 3985 4-6-6-4 Challenger

CharlienassauCharlienassauOGR Forum Member

Uncataloged Premier Union Pacific No. 3985 4-6-6-4 Challenger Steam Locomotive Announced

http://mthelectrictrains.emlnk.com/lt.php?s=68522f86dbdbce21deaacd35f3210e8c&i=1697A2015A4A52607

July 13, 2016 - M.T.H. Electric Trains is producing an exclusive and uncataloged Premier Line O Scale Union Pacific Challenger Steam Locomotive featuring cab no. 3985. Available in limited quantities this locomotive can be ordered through any M.T.H. Authorized Retailer on a first-come, first-served basis. Don't miss out on this unique opportunity!

Item No. 20-3687-1 Union Pacific 4-6-6-4 Challenger Steam Engine w/Proto-Sound 3.0 (Hi-rail Wheels)
Cab No. 3985
MSRP: $1,599.95
Arriving: December 2016

FEATURES

  • Intricately Detailed, Die-Cast Boiler and Chassis
  • Intricately Detailed, Die-Cast Tender Body
  • Authentic Paint Scheme
  • Real Tender Coal Load
  • Die-Cast Locomotive Trucks
  • Handpainted Engineer and Fireman Figures
  • Metal Handrails, Whiste and Bell
  • Metal Wheels and Axles
  • Remote-Controlled Proto-Coupler
  • O Scale Kadee-Compatible Coupler Mounting Pads
  • Prototypical Rule 17 Lighting
  • Constant Voltage LED Headlight
  • Operating LED Firebox Glow
  • Operating LED Marker Lights
  • Operating LED Numberboard Lights
  • Lighted LED Cab Interior
  • Operating Tender LED Back-up Light
  • Powerful 7-Pole Precision Flywheel-Equipped Motor
  • Synchronized Puffing ProtoSmoke System
  • Steaming Quillable Whistle
  • Locomotive Speed Control In Scale MPH Increments
  • Wireless Drawbar
  • 1:48 Scale Dimensions
  • Onboard DCC/DCS Decoder
  • Proto-Scale 3-2 3-Rail/2-Rail Conversion Capable
  • Proto-Sound 3.0 With The Digital Command System Featuring: Quillable Whistle With Freight Yard Proto-Effects
  • Unit Measures:32 x 3 1/8 x 4 1/8
  • Operates On O-72 Curves

Enhance Your Challenger With An Auxiliary Tender

Item No. 20-3558 Union Pacific Auxiliary Water Tender I (Hi-Rail Wheels)
MSRP: $249.95
Arriving: December 2016

Item No. 20-3559 Union Pacific Auxiliary Water Tender I (Hi-Rail Wheels)
MSRP: $249.95
Arriving: December 2016

Item No. 20-3560 Union Pacific Auxiliary Water Tender I (Hi-Rail Wheels)
MSRP: $249.95
Arriving: December 2016

Available in limited quantites any of these auxiliary tenders can be ordered through any M.T.H. Authorized Retailer on a first-come, first-served basis.

 

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HW Hot WaterOGR Forum Member
Engineer-Joe posted:
Hot Water posted:

Why does the model have Wind Wings (smoke lifters) AND a coal tender?

Oh boy, here goes.....

Were the smoke lifters only used with oil then?

Pretty much on those 3900s that burned oil and were initially assigned to passenger service. 

Were they added much later when the engine only burned oil?

The Wind Wings (smoke lifters) were not added to 3985 when she was converted oil, back in 1989/1990, and 3985 does NOT have Wind Wings today. Only for one special excursion (can't remember the year) did 3985 have Wind Wings add, as well as a temporary road number change, in order to commemorate the 50th anniversary of some Rocky Mountain RR Club excursion of Sherman Hill. The Wind Wings were IMMEDIATELY removed the day after that excursion.

I added the smoke lifters to my coal burning grey Challenger thinking it was because of the route they took.

I don't believe that there ever were any "coal burning gray Challengers", as all the two-tone gray Challengers were oil burners, assigned to passenger service out of Portland, OR and Los Angeles, CA.

 

Engineer-JoeEngineer-JoeOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Let's see how long MTH puts up with me here......

http://utahrails.net/up/ttg-challengers.php

" Of the 10 Challenger locomotives in the UP 3975-3984 series, at least nine locomotives (all except UP 3981) were painted to two-tone gray in 1946, apparently with yellow stripes and lettering.

Along with two-tone gray paint, all ten locomotives also received smoke lifters, known to UP as "wind wings", a new feature added after October 1945 and intended to keep smoke out of the cabs and away from the operating crews. (Two other Challengers, UP 3943 and 3967, also received wind wings in 1948, to test the concept on coal-burning locomotives assigned to freight service.) "

The Portland RoseThe Portland RoseOGR Forum Member

The only black Challengers with smoke deflectors and coal tenders were 3967 and 3943.  The gray Challengers (3975-3984) all had smoke deflectors and had oil tenders throughout most of their service years.  They were renumbered into 3700 series Challengers following removal from passenger service and kept the smoke deflectors in the black paint scheme.

Last edited by The Portland Rose
PRRronbhPRRronbhOGR Forum Member
Hot Water posted:
Engineer-Joe posted:
Hot Water posted:

Why does the model have Wind Wings (smoke lifters) AND a coal tender?

Oh boy, here goes.....

Were the smoke lifters only used with oil then?

Pretty much on those 3900s that burned oil and were initially assigned to passenger service. 

Were they added much later when the engine only burned oil?

The Wind Wings (smoke lifters) were not added to 3985 when she was converted oil, back in 1989/1990, and 3985 does NOT have Wind Wings today. Only for one special excursion (can't remember the year) did 3985 have Wind Wings add, as well as a temporary road number change, in order to commemorate the 50th anniversary of some Rocky Mountain RR Club excursion of Sherman Hill. The Wind Wings were IMMEDIATELY removed the day after that excursion.

I added the smoke lifters to my coal burning grey Challenger thinking it was because of the route they took.

I don't believe that there ever were any "coal burning gray Challengers", as all the two-tone gray Challengers were oil burners, assigned to passenger service out of Portland, OR and Los Angeles, CA.

 

It was May 15, 1993 when 3985 was replicating the May, 1953 Rocky Mountain Railroad Club excursion run of 3967.

GrometGrometOGR Forum Member

OK, I JUST got off of the phone with our MTH REP. He checked everything out and the engine WILL come with smoke deflectors IN THE BOX. Not installed. It IS Black and WILL have an OIL TENDER.

This is all confirmed by MTH.

So the Picture provided is correct IF you install the Smoke Deflectors. If you don't want them don't install them.

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