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I just received and have been running two MTH Railking Streamliners PS 3.0 -- CNW Crusader and Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Hudson from Trainworld.

I am humbled and slightly embarrassed to admit that I thought part of the engine shells would be plastic.  Why?  Because I have the Premier Steamlined Electroliner and Railking Zephyr sets.  I know, I know... those are diesels, you might respond.  But I really did not know how these were made until I purchased these. 

What blows me away is how MTH made these as diecast metal shells from molds!  They are pristine and detailed to the maximum!  The shells are die cast metal like all MTH steam engines.

So I just wanted to say that these must live on!  I am hoping employees or another company buys MTH so more folks can enjoy these classic trains for years to come.  And I also want to give a shout out to Mike Wolf and his passion for making these models.  Good luck in retirement but don't stray too far from us.

 

 

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Great locos, OP!  I agree, I've got a couple MTH RK steamers and I love them.

Why is it that steam engines are metal by default but diesels are plastic by default?  There has to be some manufacturing consideration where steam engines make more financial sense cast in zinc versus plastic.  Is it because there aren't discrete places to mount "trucks" and there are frequently a series of wheels in line?  Or is it just cause MTH / Lionel feel like the market would reject plastic steam shells?

(Yes, I know Lionel MPC did plastic steam for a while, maybe they still do.  But it still seems like vast majority of steam is zinc).

Why not metal diesels?

I never heard of a CNW Crusader, is that a fantasy piece?

Yes, though I like to think of it as poetic license.  I've always like the CNW Hudson streamliner but MTH released it with PS1 and the radius was 0-54.  I run 0-42.  So my Crusader is the 0-42 version in my mind.  I looked for real photos online and couldn't find any.  As you have confirmed, thank you, it never existed.  BTW I do not think the Hudson streamlined CBQ that I purchased existed, either.  There was a look a like streamliner but not the same engine.  Perhaps you can shed some like on that.

Thanks, John!

@IRON HORSE posted:

Yes, though I like to think of it as poetic license.  I've always like the CNW Hudson streamliner but MTH released it with PS1 and the radius was 0-54.  I run 0-42.  So my Crusader is the 0-42 version in my mind.  I looked for real photos online and couldn't find any.  As you have confirmed, thank you, it never existed.  BTW I do not think the Hudson streamlined CBQ that I purchased existed, either.  There was a look a like streamliner but not the same engine.  Perhaps you can shed some like on that.

Thanks, John!

Actually the E4 will run on 0-36 fastrack curves I ran one and it ran fine. O-42 should not be an issue either. 

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Actually the E4 will run on 0-36 fastrack curves I ran one and it ran fine. O-42 should not be an issue either. 

No way!  Had I known that I might have gone in a different direction.  But the E4 was PS1 only, right?  MTH never reissued.  If that is the case, then I stand by my decision.  The Crusader in CNW is still a cool-looking streamliner and my layout is scale-ish but not perfectly detailed like a lot of guys on this sight.  Plus, I have a seasonal holiday layout portion that is all Lemax and Department 56 -- COMPLETE FANTASY -- it is a loop that comes through the wall into our living area.    

@IRON HORSE posted:

No way!  Had I known that I might have gone in a different direction.  But the E4 was PS1 only, right?  MTH never reissued.  If that is the case, then I stand by my decision.  The Crusader in CNW is still a cool-looking streamliner and my layout is scale-ish but not perfectly detailed like a lot of guys on this sight.  Plus, I have a seasonal holiday layout portion that is all Lemax and Department 56 -- COMPLETE FANTASY -- it is a loop that comes through the wall into our living area.    

They did make a PS/2 one but it has a wireless tether instead of a wired one. The one I ran was the PS/1 that was upgraded to a PS/3. 

They did make a PS/2 one but it has a wireless tether instead of a wired one. The one I ran was the PS/1 that was upgraded to a PS/3. 

I wonder why MTH would label it as a 0-54 minimum curve?  I have a lot of pieces that say 0-42 minimum and they pretty much just fit.  My E8, for example, hangs off on 0-42 curves and anything narrower would not work at all.  As it is, it does look a little weird when hanging off -- but it works.  I chose 0-42 when I started because  my train rooms have had limited space and a lot of stuff works on 0-42.

@IRON HORSE posted:

I wonder why MTH would label it as a 0-54 minimum curve?  I have a lot of pieces that say 0-42 minimum and they pretty much just fit.  My E8, for example, hangs off on 0-42 curves and anything narrower would not work at all.  As it is, it does look a little weird when hanging off -- but it works.  I chose 0-42 when I started because  my train rooms have had limited space and a lot of stuff works on 0-42.

This one was weird. I think the catalog said 042, the box said 054 or maybe the other way around but nonetheless it does work. Not pretty but it does work. I've often said I wish the manufacturers would have the minimum curve rating be just that, the minimum curve needed for the model to go around the track and put a recommended curve for switches, s curves ect. 

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