MTH should paint a decapod up in Strasburg Livery #90. Along with a 4-8-0 N&W #475. Bet they would sell a lot.
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DohertyNJ posted:MTH should paint a decapod up in Strasburg Livery #90.
The MTH decapod model is NOT the standard Baldwin 2-10-0 type that Strasburge has. The MTH model is a "Russian Decapod", which is quite a bit different.
Along with a 4-8-0 N&W #475. Bet they would sell a lot.
Neither MTH nor Lionel has ever produced a scale 4-8-0. Only Sunset/3rd Rail has offered the N&W M Class 4-8-0 models, and did include the #475. And, you are correct in that those sold out quickly.
I would buy a #90 in a heartbeat.
John
BlueComet400 posted:I would buy a #90 in a heartbeat.
John
Right. All it would take is for a manufacturer to produce a model of it, in 3-Rail.
You bet, if a passable 4-8-0 was produced I'd snatch one up - I've got a beautiful Strasburg consist and "nothing" to pull them with!!
I asked Mike directly at York about these and was told to keep on waiting!
I have wanted a scale #90, in it's original road's livery, for literally years..l like that N&W 4-8-0...thought it would be larger, but it's territory was far from what l model, so l reluctantly passed one up. (Guess both fall into the "different is good" category)
Several years ago I asked Mike Wolf about #90 as well. He said they were considering painting up the 2-10-0 Decapod in Strasburg. It's a shame they have those beautiful woodside coaches and nothing to pull them. HotWater is correct, they are different. I never realized how much until I put them side by side.
Have Fun!
Ron
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Had a chance go get a 3rd Rail 475 a few years ago and passed. Been regretting it since.
I'm in for the Strasburg #90, I have eight of the nice Woodside coaches and I'm currently pulling them with a non-prototypical 4-4-0. Been waiting for someone to make the #90 ever since I got the cars.
What's surprising to me is, MTH keeps "missing the boat" with their VERY nice model of the Russian Decapod, but not offering in the Frisoc #1630 livery. The REAL Frisco #1630 operates pretty regularly at the Illinois Railway Museum, and has been photographed by tens of thousands of people over the many years that the #1630 has been there.
When manufacturer's keep "missing the boat", one wonders if it's a licensing issue that prevents them from making a specific model. It's an ugly world out there with all the lawyers running around, that may be why specific models and/or road names don't get produced.
John, I know where you can get a Mogul like the SRR operates, and it was just recently overhauled by an expert😁
I already have it, I must be out of my mind to consider letting it go! 
I also noticed I got the last Strasburg tender shell available, so that option may be out. 
I just scored a set of the red SRR cars, and I also have the Philly & Reading observation MTH made last year, so when it all comes together, it should make a nice looking train.
We'll need a video. 
Got the #89 from Lionel. Looks great with the wooden cars. One of the hardest to find train items i've looked for. have the tmcc CN Mogul as well.
Just did a full TMCC/smoke upgrade on the #89 Mogul, sadly it's not mine and I have to give it back.
John, you are welcome to come up to Maine and run it any time😃
You never know, if you hear a knock on the door...
As much as I want a Strasburg #90 I would not go for the MTH 2-10-0 dressed as #90. It needs to be a proper scale representation of #90 or its not worth the $999+ that these models are going for these days. I could understand doing this in the railking line but this is scale detailed premier we are talking about.
Hot Water posted:Neither MTH nor Lionel has ever produced a scale 4-8-0. Only Sunset/3rd Rail has offered the N&W M Class 4-8-0 models, and did include the #475. And, you are correct in that those sold out quickly.
And when they shipped, the cab# you get is the luck of the draw. I ended up with #495. I really wanted 475.
Gilly
SGP posted:As much as I want a Strasburg #90 I would not go for the MTH 2-10-0 dressed as #90. It needs to be a proper scale representation of #90 or its not worth the $999+ that these models are going for these days. I could understand doing this in the railking line but this is scale detailed premier we are talking about.
Correct.
Strasburg #90 is essentially a Baldwin "catalog" 2-10-0, while the MTH model is of a 2-10-0 built for the Russian government railways that were embargoed because of the Russian Revolution and Americanized for US railroads.
Rusty
Gilly@N&W posted:Hot Water posted:Neither MTH nor Lionel has ever produced a scale 4-8-0. Only Sunset/3rd Rail has offered the N&W M Class 4-8-0 models, and did include the #475. And, you are correct in that those sold out quickly.
And when they shipped, the cab# you get is the luck of the draw. I ended up with #495. I really wanted 475.
Gilly
Did you specify that you wanted #475 on your order to Sunset/3rd Rail? I'm sure Scott Mann would have shipped you the locomotive number that you ordered, had he known.
Would 3rd Rail ever make another N&W #475? Or any Strasburg Steam Engine. Thinking a lot of people are interested.
DohertyNJ posted:Would 3rd Rail ever make another N&W #475? Or any Strasburg Steam Engine. Thinking a lot of people are interested.
I suggest that you contact Scott Mann at Sunset/3rd Rail and ask him www.sdmann@3rdrail.com
Hot Water posted:DohertyNJ posted:Would 3rd Rail ever make another N&W #475? Or any Strasburg Steam Engine. Thinking a lot of people are interested.
I suggest that you contact Scott Mann at Sunset/3rd Rail and ask him www.sdmann@3rdrail.com
Thanks For the Info. Did not know #90 was a "Standard Decapod" as opposed to the MTH model a "Russian Decapod". Will do.
Hot Water posted:I suggest that you contact Scott Mann at Sunset/3rd Rail and ask him www.sdmann@3rdrail.com
Contact Scott Mann at Sunset/3rd Rail at this email address: sdmann@3rdrail.com
gunrunnerjohn posted:Just did a full TMCC/smoke upgrade on the #89 Mogul, sadly it's not mine and I have to give it back.
John, I have two of those Lionel #89 Moguls. I want to keep one in it's original NIB factory conventional condition but I'd like the other changed to TMCC. However my concern is about the original factory crew talk and other sounds if I have it upgraded to TMCC. Can the original sounds be kept or do they have to be changed? What did you do for the one you just upgraded? Can you post a video of it showcasing those upgrades? Also, what smoke upgrade(s) did you do to it? Add your Super Chuffer?
Besides responding here to my questions and concerns for every to see, would you please PM me THE cost and full info about you doing a TMCC/smoke upgrade for my #89 Mogul?
Thanks.
Sadly, the sound board in these is strictly conventional, so it has to be replaced. John wanted the medium steam ERR board, so that's what he got. Since the Cruise Commander doesn't fit in the locomotive, I used a Cruise Commander M, the original Mogul TMCC motherboard, and an R2LC. I made the cables needed to connect it all together, and of course added the Super-Chuffer and rebuilt the smoke unit. I also couldn't keep the wireless drawbar as the ERR RS Commander doesn't support that option, so I used Minatronics mini-cables for a tether.
Here's a video of the upgraded locomotive.
Send me an email if you want to talk about upgrades.
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Very nice...
Hey TRACK! So you didn't sell all of that easy, affordable, it'll do in a pinch FasTrack.
Was that #86 was originally a CN? I have that in TMCC from the factory. I have the #89 Strasburg from factory as conventional.
3rd Rail would do another run of #475 if there were enough pre-orders to do 75 to 100 units in 2 and 3 rail total. #90 might be a little harder to get done.
The last two times I actually rode the Strasburg PRR 1223 was still pulling it. I'd personally enjoy a model of that just to confuse the conversation.
DohertyNJ posted:Was that #86 was originally a CN? I have that in TMCC from the factory. I have the #89 Strasburg from factory as conventional.
Since you have both Moguls to check for comparison, does it appear if the shells of both the engine and tender of those two moguls are interchangeable so that the CN tmcc ones could be swapped with the Strasburg 89 ones? Also, does the CN tmcc mogul have both crew talk similar to the conventional #89 Strasburg mogul and also cruise control?
cjack posted:Very nice...
Hey TRACK! So you didn't sell all of that easy, affordable, it'll do in a pinch FasTrack.
Yep, I tossed down a loop to test stuff until I get my real track down. By "real", that would NOT be Fastrack.
Folks, the shell of the Strasburg and the CN are 100% compatible, I dropped the Strasburg shell on this tender without changing anything. Obviously, I had to wire up the stuff like the backup light and volume pot. AFAIK, the CN Mogul was identical in function as the Strasburg, it did have Odyssey and a smoke regulator. Of course, that was burned out and had cooked the smoke unit resistor as well.
The Mogul in the video is mine--and I can't wait to run it. It turned out to be a real "Frankenstein" project. It started out as a Bethlehem Steel Mogul, which I bought on ebay for short money. Then, right after I bought it I found the CN #86 loco shell on ebay, and bought it. At that point, I figured all I would need to do (other than sending it to Gunrunner so he could work his magic) is to swap out the loco shells, repaint the tender and have SRR decals made, and the end result would be a SRR Mogul, except for the cab number, and I can live with 86 instead of 89. While working on the conversion, John called me to tell me he found a Lionel SRR shell, so I went for that instead of the repaint / decal route on the Bethlehem Steel tender shell. At some point I'll either change the loco to 89 or the tender to 86 so they match, but that's not a huge priority right now.
I really like the end result; until someone makes #90, this will be perfect. Thanks, John, for your efforts.
John
