If GW Bush casket is not watched over by a Guard, I would like to add one. Where would I obtain one? Thanks, Dave
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Not sure where to purchase, But it will need to be Army Honor Guard soldier. Please let me know as well. I just purchased my car from PatsTrains last weekend.
Jayhawk500 posted:
Not sure where to purchase, But it will need to be Army Honor Guard soldier. Please let me know as well. I just purchased my car from PatsTrains last weekend.
President Bush was NOT Army he was NAVY! So either a Marine or Navy sailor. And from a picture I found a Navy Sailor was standing Post.
But from the day I am sure I saw some Marines around.
Ron
He was also Commander in Chief of all the armed forces and as such ALL branches of the service were represented.
Com'on guys.
Pete
Ok, I think we can agree the guard was a Navy Sailor. I just want to finish it off as it was during the trip. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mike doesn't make it available. Dave
Arttista has a navy sailor # 1224 .....he’s standing with a duffle bag. He’s sorta standing maybe between parade rest and at ease? .....maybe that could work if you cut off the duffle bag and paint him up in dress???.............Pat
That might work good. Thanks Pat. Dave
Another option.
Pete
harmonyards posted:Arttista has a navy sailor # 1224 ...if you cut off the duffle bag and paint him up in dress???.............Pat
First and foremost, there is no guard included with the car. There are "windows" replacing doors on both side. The flag draped coffin does have good detail. And there is the presidential seal added adjacent to the door.
I was looking at an Artista sailor on eBay. Looks like I just shagged the last from one of the vendors. I'll repaint prior to installation. It would be nice if MTH offered a more proper prototype.
Hats-off to MTH. They did a nice job with this baggage car. I regretted selling an earlier version and am very pleased to have this car back on my roster.
Norton posted:He was also Commander in Chief of all the armed forces and as such ALL branches of the service were represented.
Com'on guys.
Pete
To amplify a bit, President Bush was escorted on his final journey by members of the Old Guard (3d U.S. Infantry Regiment), who serve at Arlington National Cemetery. The soldier depicted in the photo Pete posted shot from the outside of the car shows a member of the Old Guard standing watch. However, U.S. Presidents are also escorted by what's called the Guard of Honor, who are military personnel assigned to ceremonial units in Washington DC from all branches of the US military (Army, Navy, USAF, USMC, and USCG). Finally, Presidents are afforded a team of nine Armed Forces body bearers to carry their caskets, also made up of representatives of each military branch. In other words, the guard keeping watch was likely changed several times throughout the journey and each branch of the service was likely represented. Therefore, any military guard in ceremonial attire you choose for this car, as long as it represents a member of the US Armed Forces, will be "correct."
I'm a little disappointed the car did not have the option of closing the doors.
CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:
I'm a little disappointed the car did not have the option of closing the doors.
I am too.
CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:I'm a little disappointed the car did not have the option of closing the doors.
As I am sure you are aware of the doors at that casket end are slid full open and clear panels are in place.
But more over this car MTH 20-64089 is only prototypically correct as part of the President George Bush funeral train. Why you ask, the Presidential Seal is in-fact attached to the car at the casket end opening.
Ron
REDROCKBILL: THANK YOU for your correct explanation: ALL branches of service were represented. - Art Poole, PROUD US Army veteran.
So question then. If we open the car, can we take the clear panels out and then slide the doors shut?
sinclair posted:So question then. If we open the car, can we take the clear panels out and then slide the doors shut?
There are no doors to close on that side.
Pete
I want half doors .Like the Cheyenne Frontier Days train. Cowboys and cowgirls hanging out the side . People dancing on the inside and a band playing. No disrespect for the president,but there were many happy times in that car before he took his last ride.
And don't leave out the bar !
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CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:I want half doors .Like the Cheyenne Frontier Days train. Cowboys and cowgirls hanging out the side . People dancing on the inside and a band playing. No disrespect for the president,but there were many happy times in that car before he took his last ride.
And don't leave out the bar !
Actually not a half door but the lower panel is a barricade can see the actual siding door(s) to the left and right. This lower type of barricade was command on all baggage cars used as a commissary car on excursion trains i have been on. I am working on barricades to fit various baggage cars for excursion service modeling.
Ron
Would like to add the guard to mine as well
