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So it looks like Bachmann will use the info it has on hand from other scales to create new locos under the Williams line. The GE 44ton loco has been done in N and HO and a version in On30......so now we get it in O 3R. Using that logic here is my vote for the next steam loco.....

 

Bachmann HO loco

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A 'modern' 4-4-0 loco. Bachmann gas them in N, HO, On30 and G.....so logic says.....

If not that maybe a 'modern' 2-8-0 would be OK too!

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Originally Posted by AMCDave:

So it looks like Bachmann will use the info it has on hand from other scales to create new locos under the Williams line. The GE 44ton loco has been done in N and HO and a version in On30......so now we get it in O 3R. Using that logic here is my vote for the next steam loco.....

 

Bachmann HO loco

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A 'modern' 4-4-0 loco. Bachmann gas them in N, HO, On30 and G.....so logic says.....

If not that maybe a 'modern' 2-8-0 would be OK too!

Good choice.

 

Rusty

I like your suggestion Rusty. Using the same rationale I came up with two engines that Bachman offers in HO that I would like to see. How about a 4-6-0 in Boston and Maine. The New England lines don't get much support from the manufacturers. My second choice is a little Porter. I picked the Pennsy picture because I'm a big pennsy fan.

 

 

Bachman 4-6-0 B&M Steam Engine

Bachman Pennsy Porter Steam Engine

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Originally Posted by jaygee:

A PRR Lines East H9sa  2-8-0 Consolly with low side 70F 72 tank, on Dauphin trucks  and modernized front end.  Footboards all around, and bug eye marker lights. You can also throw in an air bottle power reverse....just for S&G !  Huzzah !

All that at a WbB price???I'm IN!!!!

But looking at all past offerings in all scale.....more than likely something more generic!!

I'd prefer a generic locomotive.  Something that could be used to represent engines used by many railroads. USRA types are always good.  It's hard to make a Pennsy or Reading engine pass for anything operated by other railroads.

 

I think Bachman could use the Williams locomotives as a starting point to offer some new stuff for the operators of traditional sized trains.  Make a Pacific or a Mikado using the existing running gear.  

Originally Posted by BARailroad:

I'd prefer a generic locomotive.  Something that could be used to represent engines used by many railroads.

Dave's first choice is about as generic as they get. Most all railroads had examples of 4-4-0s and some lasted until the 1950s. Offer a few types of stacks and headlight styles and locations or better yet make them easily swappable.

 

Pete

Originally Posted by Norton:
Dave's first choice is about as generic as they get. Most all railroads had examples of 4-4-0s and some lasted until the 1950s. Offer a few types of stacks and headlight styles and locations or better yet make them easily swappable.

 

Pete

Exactly....'modern' as in the locos that lasted into the 50's.  My great grandfather retired as a engineer for B&O in 1950 and only ran steam locos.

 

In many cases Bachmann includes alternate stacks and even domes in their HO and On30 models......Might be a first in O3R if they did it???

  I would buy one or two modern scale 4-4-0.

  From a marketing standpoint these should sell very well because they can be used on small layouts or big layouts. It could be enhanced by building the tender where a simple part swap would change it from a coal burner to an oil burner, maybe the smoke stack could be done the same way.

  These same locomotives could easily be adapted to RTR(ready to run starter sets).

  I would be satisfied with USRA engines, the more common the better.

  Road names and type of locomotive are two different issues. Although Pennsy or New York Central are popular there is still interest in other major roads. I think little attention is given to regional roads in the south, west, or far west. The New England roads and the granger roads get a lot of attention while the others are ignored.

  Some people do not know that 4-4-0 (American) locomotives ran until the end of the steam era in the 1950s, but they did.

 

Douglas

I'll see Wowak's Reading I-10sa and raise with Reading A-5b 0-4-0 Camelback 1187 (also 4) at Strasburg.

 

And then give a nod to Thomas Industries and offer two beautiful new Civil War-era 4-4-0's built by [David] Kloke Locomotive Works, Elgin, IL - the LEVIATHAN (2009) and the YORK (2013)

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In the 1890's, Vauclain compound Camelback 4-4-2 1027 headed the fastest regularly scheduled passenger trains in the world between Camden and Atlantic City on the Atlantic City Railroad, a Philadelphia & Reading subsidiary. The Pennsy built 3 similar Camelbacks with Belpaire fireboxes and European 3-axle tenders to compete for lucrative seashore traffic. These 3 E-1's culminated in the renowned E-6s Atlantics. The sole survivor, 460 ("the Lindbergh Engine"), is being cosmetically restored in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania at Strasburg.

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The 4-4-0 would be just fine. But Bachmann (or anyone else reading this) can tap an untouched segment of the 3-rail steam locomotive market.

 

Logging 2-6-2, 2-8-2 and the tank versions thereof.

 

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Small drivers mean they are closely spaced therefore can go around tight turns. Large boilers can hide motors and the electronics we love/hate so much. Not to mention a not so small tender.

 

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Saddle tank also helps with the motor, electronic board concealment.

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Can be a 2-6-2 as well. Frames can be set up for 3 or 4 driving axles. The boiler can have an extra course added for 2-6-2 or 2-8-2 variants. Same with the saddle tank superstructure.

M&B_1077

Just a suggestion. Small drivers, lead and trailing trucks, Something we never had on a 3-rail engine. Tank or tender, same chassis. Lots of bang for your tooling buck.

Logging, mining, short lines, museums all used them.

Bachmann has done a lot of logging/mining roads in their On30 line. So this is a natural for them.

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I think the HO scale Shay they do is great but the Climax would get my money. The one that MTH is only acceptable as a model of one Hillcrest prototype because of the weird handmade replacement dome. Bachmann's prices seem better than most.

 

As far as the other engines I see posted about smaller steam is better to me. The so called modern 4-4-0 and 2-6-0 would be great. 

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