" New " Legacy F12e Pulls The Milk Train ( Video Added)

Hi Rick very nice,

You know my next question LOL. Can you post a video!!!  would love to here it

Thanks,

Alex

RickO, I am glad to hear you compliment this Good Looking Engine, It must be Nice...I second Alex M, lets see a short video....The darkened side rods are sharp... This is a WOW!

Thanks for posting the nice picture.  I love these smaller engines. Does this have the Steam/Whistle effect?  Happy Railroading....

Rick, how many cars (freight) can it pull ?

Alex, I'l have to see if I can figure out how to post video from my phone. I intend to get an SD cam corder and I end up spending all my money on trains.

Larry, no whistle steam, but the whistle sound alone makes it a keeper.

Arthur. I'm not sure how many, I guess it depends how many cars and what kind you want to pull. being a smaller locomotive/prototype I plan on pulling shorter trains like the five car and caboose milk train in the photo.

I would think a fair number of cars given the amonut of cars Mike Reagan demonstrated could be pulled by a Lionchief loco.

Alex, Rick....here's it's older cousin....I shot this about 3-4 years ago

I suspect that they are pretty close mechanically....

Peter

Rick,

    I have found the easiest way is to email yourself the video from your phone. Save the video to your computer, post on the forum from your computer.

JohnB

Mine arrived yesterday. Rick is right, the whistle and sounds are exceptional. I keep hoping it will motivate the other outfit to up their game in the sound department.

For a 4-6-0 this one is pretty substantial. I would think it could pull 25 period freight cars no problem.

Pete

Thanks Rick for your report. Lionel sounds keep getting better and better.

Nice pick up RICK.  I have the older NYC Legacy ten wheeler, runs great.  I was thinking of getting the CN, I'm still on the fence yet?

Lionel is on a roll with all the great models they've recently introduced.  The VL BBs, CFs ( a sleeper), Heavy Mikes, Y6b and now this one.  

I really like the smaller steam they've been offering.

As of now, Lionel just has the best sound (IMO).  Period.

Enjoy your new locomotive and look forward to a video.  

RickO, I love the old building in the background.  You make it?  

Hopefully Lionel will catalog more in the 2015 V2. I didn't preorder one because I was hesitant because of no whistle steam. I guess if the whistle is good that's enough!

Just picked mine up this morning. As a big fan of the "Old Put," I think this baby is a home run. I had to open it here at work to take a look. The blackened drivers of #1258 are definitely a big plus over the shinny ones on #827. And as promised, (but you never know) the tender is correctly lettered  NEW YORK CENTRAL with no LINES added!

  If I have one criticism it would be that they could have paid a little more attention to the font, size and spacing of the cab numbers. Not a big deal but a NYC fan and a Put Fan would notice. 

Now I can't wait to get her home. 

Last night I pulled out my other NYC ten wheelers to see how they compare. All three are essentially identical with the exception that the Odyssey version #1916 has a high mounted headlight and the other two are center mounted. 1916 has only one chuff and its class lights lack lenses. It also came with Railsounds4. The two Legacy engines differ significantly in sound quality. The earlier 827 has early Legacy modular sound boards and a baby Fatboy speaker but the chuff is extremely thin sounding more like a hiss. The new Legacy 1258 has a deep chuff more characteristic of a much newer and larger Legacy engine. Even the RS4 1916 has a deeper chuff than 827. The whistles on all three are different, which I think is appropriate since they represent engines run on different parts of the system.  

The two Legacy engines run in lock step in a Lashup. I wasn't able to get all three to run in a Lashup but I realize I will have to first set the other two to TMCC or R100 mode before that might work. 

I am OK with differences in lettering as I assume at least two, 827 and 1916, were lettered for subsidiaries, not the parent company. 1916 has in fact B&A initials.

Easy enough to change if you wanted to run them together.

One thing left to determine is if the new 1258 has a larger can motor. Both earlier engines have only the small Mabuchi RS385 motor. 

Pete

Hi Pete,  Actually, #827 was a Putnam Division locomotive that was renumbered #1240 when the big renumbering took place in the 1940's. Lionel shouldn't have lettered the tender NEW YORK CENTRAL LINES. That was apparently the "left over" lettering for that tender from the earlier B&A #1916.

Skip, Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of what got renumbered where.

Check out this thread on removing lettering. Try it on the inside of the tender first. It works great on the Korean made engines. I have not tried it on the later ones made in China to see if the paint formula is different. Its very fast and leaves no residue.

Pete

Just to throw in a few things:

The earlier Lionel NYC Ten-Wheeler is an accurate F2 class 4-6-0, "Lines" can be correct for that era (depending on where it ran - and the P&LE kept "Lines" into the diesel era),

the high headlight is also correct for the F-2.

The F-2's were modernized later - with superheaters, for example - and the headlights were lowered. They were re-classed F-12; the later Lionel model represents these.

Both Lionel versions are accurate, within Hi-Rail standards. I have the early NYC one; would also like the later. My -only- complaint with mine is the single chuff, which can be changed, if I EVER get to it. Even 2 would be an improvement.

Don't like the color of the rods/wheels? P-A-I-N-T. We're supposed to be modelers.  

My favorite feature of my 827 is legacy slow speed......and watching the 4 cuffs per revolution......

Peter

There is a really nice improvement in the marker light lenses.

Here's a little video.

Wow, it sounds awesome in that video!

Great video, Skip!

Peter

Thanks Rick! I don't have Legacy hooked up to my layout yet so my video was very limited.  Still a beauty in conventional though!

I love the whistle.  What a beautiful locomotive and looks like a great runner.

Incredibly realistic whistle and bell............  nice.

Thanks for the video.  What Lionel catalog number is this engine?

6-82271 for the NYC. Lionel has them in several other roadnames as well.

Very Nice!

Anyone have any input on the minimum curve 054?

On the lionel website for the 6-82271 for the NYC they list the minimum curve as 054 - so I wasn't considering getting one for my 036 layout. BUT today I picked up a copy of the Lionel 2014 vol. 2 catalog that features these Ten Wheelers - and in print the catalog says they are 031.

I'm guessing the website listing 054 is likely more current and updated since printing the catalog.

Wow those look really nice. The legacy really shines on that locomotive. Dang it now I want one.

Winston,

I have this brand new, unused Legacy New York Central 4-6-0, Lionel 6-82271, listed on the For Sales forum now if you are looking for one. See https://ogrforum.com/t...-0-f-12-steam-engine.

My e-mail is in my NYC2UP profile if you have any questions. Thanks.

Tom

There is a risk in accepting the following, the Legacy package might make a design difference. But for what it's worth....

I have a Frisco 719 from the first issue of these engines. It has TMCC and Odessey, high headlight and the one chuff sound system. I like smaller engines; this one was cataloged as operating on 0-31 track. It operates very well on 0-31 track and navigates back-to-back s-curve 022 switches without any derailments.

It is a very nice engine, as shown in the videos above.

I found your video online about a week ago. It was really nice and I wanted you to know I subscribed to you! 

The O-54 minimum radius is incorrect. The previous legacy 10 wheelers were rated o-31 as well. These newest ones are made from the same tooling.

I just ran mine through 2 fastrack o-36 switches that make an S curve. No issues.

Thanks Harry! It will probably be a good while before I post anymore videos, but eventually I will.

Lionel has the best sound, IMO.

Thank RickO - that's what I was hoping to hear.