New steam engine from MTH : The German BR 44

All new MTH Premier Steam are made with the 'PROTO 3-2' Feature [Where the Engine will switch from 3-Rail to 2-Rail or Vise-Versa], but you choose from Scale or Hi-Rail Wheels..

thanx Gardner

also will mth have the  DR(Deutsche Reich) passenger cars to go along with those locomotives??

some pics of te BR44

The pictures posted by Milepost 48 are fantastic, and go a long way toward justifying the intimidating price tag on the engine. I just hope we will see some appropriate freight cars to go with it!

DR was also used by the DDR (East Germany) in the post war period, until the reunification of the two Germanys.  DB (Deutsche Bundesbahn - German Federal Railway) was used by Western Germany.  DB coaches would be appropiate for the two black engines offered, not DR.

If MTH did offer the proper cars for the DB they could also offer them in the United States Army scheme, as the USA had a number of these cars - including sleepers.  I rode on them on Frankfurt/Berlin trips in 1968.

Please don't buy the passenger cars but instead get these:

http://www.spur-0-kaufhaus.de/shop/article_s14140/Bausatz%2C-Fad-167%2C-Ep.-4.html?sessid=rzDxs4A5y7ATbtLlLqkMg45y1vk6CNgcFC5jE0te0babdtMFMpXmo7PAU4mTRxx1&shop_param=cid%3D18566%26aid%3Ds14140%26

Also available in RTR but double the price. Only problem is that you really have to buy lots of them and then two BR44 locmomotives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJIDqW0Ot6U

Hi Michiel,

interesting that you posted the link to the ore cars. I have just been organizing mine and have nine or ten that I will run behind either my Spring Br18 or my E44 with four Fualhaber Motors. If you search under Miketg over in the two rail section, you will be able to see photos and video of my layout Georgenstadt.

All the best,

Miketg

This locomotive is in 1.45, the DB hoppers from Schellenkamp are in 1.43,5, consequently they are over scale for the locomotive. The last 44's to pull these hoppers from Emden to the Ruhr were oil fired and classed as 43's and ran until the mid 70's. The tenders were considerably modified.

The difference in scale is about 3%, or 30 cm on a car 10m long. It would take a very sharp eye to spot that in an 0 gauge model, as that would amount to about 6-7mm or 1/4".

@MikeTG: Yes, I've seen the video of your very nice layout. Unfortunately I'm a bit restricted with my bookshelf layout at the moment .  

 The DB Hoppers from Schnellenkamp are scale 1:45, I've measured one and it's a bit under 26cm which would be 11.7 meters. Prototype says 11.5 meters: http://www.dybas.de/dybas/gw/gw_f_1/g167.html

Better watch out with that BR18 because the maximum speed for the hopper cars is 80 km/h  

John 23

Thanks for the info I was an exchange student in both Germanies before the wall came down and didn't know DR was specific for the DDR!!

Thanks for the clarification.

I didn't know at the time how fortunate I was to ride the trains pulled by those wonderful steamers. I am so looking forward to the release of that locomotive with that sound system. I know it's going to cost me but I will be saving up for it and I will consider it a jewel in the crown of what I have not to mention the sentiment behind it.

When I was over there I did go into hobby shops but everything I saw was G-Scale or HO and the electrical systems were not compatible with American systems 

My how things have changed. Even though the Commies kept their "subjects" down I saw some great outdoor and indoor layouts in both GDR and DDR not to mention the British are awesome too!!!

Michael

I didn't see those "hopperish" looking cars when I was over there but they do look cool !! I do want to get a few

BUT

are there any passenger cars that MTH may consider to go with the BR-44 with markings?

Michael will there be or are there "DB" marked passenger cars? DR would be nice too but I am assuming most would want DB!!

Rivarossi made 0 scale passenger cars in DB markings back in the 1970's.  I have a couple.  They were plastic and a bit plain in detail.  I'm sure better cars have been made since, but I don't know by who.

Someone above took issue with my "very few US 2-10-0's" comment, and, to be sure,

there were some around - but mainly because the US is/was an enormous country,

compared to most. By "enormous" I mean size multiplied by population multiplied

by wealth per citizen; nowhere else had all three in such abundance. So, we had locomotives all over the place - but the 2-10-0 was still a relatively uncommon wheel 

arrangement. The other "ten-feet" locos - 2-10-4, 2-10-2, etc - were not 2-10-0's,

by definition. So I respectfully stand by my statement.

 Looking around on the internet, it seems I was wrong and the BR44 was also regularly used in passenger service. 

There's also an overload of BR44 pictures at  http://www.bahnbilder.de/name/...alfotografie/48.html

 but I think most of these with passenger cars are after the BR44 already was out of service. My best (affordable) guess for cars would be Lenz umbauwagen or the Rivarossi DB coaches mentioned earlier (those are plain but 250 USD cheaper).

limey

i guess from what you wrote the scale will be a little larger. that locomotive will sure have presence on the track!!!!!

I did see them pulling troop trains into Baumholder.

A quick reheat of this thread.

Part 1 of the TV show "Eisenbahn Romantik" is online and we can see a very exuberant Mike Wolf proudly showing the BR44 and the German Crocodile.

The show, in German, show again a tremendous amount of new items, mostly HO, but well worth watching for anyone interested in model trains in general...for the MTH segment jump to 23 minutes (just after the **** station)

Nurnberg Toy Fair part 1

Part 2 was just on tonight on TV, so it should be online in the coming week.

thanks lafondue

mike looked like he was having a great time in Germany.

That BR-44 is going to be one awesome locomotive the sounds alone will make you think you are im Deutschland!!!