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How many N5C cabooses can Williams sell? What about another caboose model?

Also more variety in passenger cars and sets, per say, more Pennsylvania roadnames, instead of Deluxe Lines!!!

I have no problem with Williams quality, just the variety of differant raodnames or the lack of differant roadnames. Like Reading Lines when the GP-38 came out, or was it just a limited run?? Currently no Reading Company passenger cars with anything made by WBB.

 

Lee F.

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Hello Nicole....., and guys.......

 

I changed the trucks to mth railking trucks and made new frame for it with one piece molded under frame detail.  It made big differences in how it looks and not stand too tall (high water look). Those williams trucks are pretty crude of today's standards but some folks like them.  I don't know how to post pictures here as i would like you guys to see the work i done on it few weeks ago.

the woman who loves toy trains

Tiffany

 

Tiffany and Nicole,
   Have you seen any of the Williams Penn Central cabooses that have the new-style truck?  Those look really nice.  The old trucks look like a Lionel postwar design, while the new releases, like the bulkhead flatcar for example, have a more realistic appearing truck.
 
  If any manufacturer should redo their caboose trucks, it should be MTH.  Those T-section Bettendorfs look strange under their bay-window and extended-vision cabooses.
 
  I'd like to see Williams do a two-motor version of their 44-tonner.  Use the Alco trucks on that baby, and call it the 88-tonner. Originally Posted by Tiffany:

Hello Nicole....., and guys.......

 

I changed the trucks to mth railking trucks and made new frame for it with one piece molded under frame detail.  It made big differences in how it looks and not stand too tall (high water look). Those williams trucks are pretty crude of today's standards but some folks like them.  I don't know how to post pictures here as i would like you guys to see the work i done on it few weeks ago.

the woman who loves toy trains

Tiffany

 

 

Bachmann already has the GE 44 ton and 70 ton units in its HO and N scale lines. An O scale 44 tonner seems to be the most frequently requested locomotive on this forum. The 70 tonner appears to be on the wish lists of many as well. I'll bet Bachmann will be the one to finally make O scale models of these locomotives a reality. I don't think Lionel and MTH are interested in producing models into which they can't cram their standard 6 pounds of electronics but I invite them to prove me wrong.

 

Bob  

CNJ 3676 has said it well...was sorry WBB canceled their second steamer, which I

think was to be a Consolidation.  As for a scale 44 tonner, the guy who runs the Strasburg O scale show was offering those conspicuously in the Silver Hall during prior Yorks (can't quickly find his name), maybe not at a Williams price.  I don't know if those are still available but he had 3 rail ones.  Hard for me to believe that anybody

wants more N5C's or Northeasterns.  I had no luck trying to cajole the guy who was

doing O scale caboose kits that he needed to expand his line out of generic looking cabooses, and I posted photos of some of my scratchbuilt ones on here.  Cabooses gave individuality to railroads, and some of them were highly individual.  What I would want from Bachmann doesn't seem that hard to tool up...just 3 rail all the On30 logging locos and other rolling stock they already offer.  I am waving money.

Williams is my first choice when I purchase new trains.  I just bought a set of 4 Madison cars from a forum advertiser for a little over $110 including shipping, how can you beat that?

 

I'd like to see WBB start making undecorated steam locos, passenger and freight cars, that's pretty low cost.  I'm sure many guys would like to decal their own and not hassle with trying to remove lettering they don't want. 

 

As far as new models go, I'd like to see a Mikado and a Pacific using the running gear they already have by changing the rear truck to a two wheeled unit.  Making some changes in the Hudson/Berkshire castings would create some variety in their traditional offerings.  Lionel did this some and it's a low cost modification. Also a new caboose  would be nice.  No PRR prototype please, a generic Northeastern style would be better choice as they were used by many railroads. (I like the Pennsy N5C, I own several)      

 

Finally, I'm looking forward to those B&M F3's.  Hope they show up before next Christmas!

I don't know how to post pictures here as i would like you guys to see the work I did on it few weeks ago.

 

Posting pictures is much easier on this new Forum. First, save photos on your computer or on a disk. After signing in and clicking on "Reply," type your message at the top. Then click on "Add Attachments" next to a green cross. Click on "Add Files" and upload photo(s). Click on "Finished." Be sure to check box to the left of a line of boldface type that states, Insert all photos into post body. That will insert your photo(s) into your message rather than keeping them tiny at the bottom.DSCF0449

 

You can also click at the bottom right corner of a photo and separate a photo below it, like this.

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After editing your message and arranging photos, scroll down and click on "Submit Reply." Then we can all see your work.

 

I'll post photos of my Lionel Reading T-1 custom painted and detailed as 2124 in her Iron Horse Rambles paint scheme and Norfolk Southern's Reading BEE LINE Heritage Unit. If I have neglected any steps I'll edit my message and insert them.

 

I like reading your messages, and I look forward to seeing your work.

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It would be great if they could get the K-Line diesels and freight cars that have been produced in very few roadnames and paint schemes like the SD70MAC/SD75I Diesel-electric locomotive, the Evans Products Covered Coil Car, and the Post-1976 Plate B height ACF Center Flow 2-Bay Covered Hopper.  

 

 

Bachmann could offer all of the fine K-Line O Scale Caboose.

 

Andrew

 

Falcon Service

Which cabooses from the K-Line collection should Bachmann return to production for the Williams product line.

 

The Extended-Vision Caboose would be great, since there are still some railroads and graphic variations that have not been covered by K-Line and the others at all or have not been produced in large enough numbers.  

 

Andrew

Why couldn't Williams manuafacture the former K-line smoking cabooses--minus the troublesome smoking mechanism?  And what about the Marx-based bay window, and even the Husky line wood cupola cabooses?      Originally Posted by falconservice:

Which cabooses from the K-Line collection should Bachmann return to production for the Williams product line.

 

The Extended-Vision Caboose would be great, since there are still some railroads and graphic variations that have not been covered by K-Line and the others at all or have not been produced in large enough numbers.  

 

Andrew

 

Originally Posted by phillyreading:

While there are some nice items mentioned we should keep in mind that Williams claims they need to make a profit on an item, so they would have to sell a whole lot of something that they make, per say; a certain streetcar or LIRR. Bottom line for Williams; will it sell?

 

Lee F.

 

Couple of thoughts for Williams some time:  If they have access to the former K-Line tooling and dies on freight cars, the woodside caboose would be a good candidate.  Most railroads had them, built early in the 20th century but some lasted to the end of steam and some until the end of cabooses. 

 

How about those K-Line scale reefers; Maury was just getting them going when someone pulled the plug.  K-Line also had some really neat trucks, some with the "finned" wheels that were used in the early part of the last 100 years.  K-Line's cars even had detailled interior loads.

 

I know that Williams has their own tooling for passenger cars, both the streamlined (aluminum) as well as the plastic, 18" heavyweights.  But if they decided to offer the K-Line version along with their own, they could really offer some variations.  I'd be in line for some of those.  I once spoke with Maury (actually with Nick Ladd) about offering a "fast mail" train of about six to eight cars, using RPO's, baggage or storage cars, express cars and one or two coaches, in a number of different road names.  With the combination of both sets of dies and fixtures, they could offer some really neat trains with lots of prototype authenticity and with a lot of different road names.

 

Larry; are you hearing all this???

 

Paul Fischer

"I've been really eyeing the new 4-6-0, even though it doesn't fit at all with my late-steam Reading Co. focus."
 
Someone posted a photo of a Ten-Wheeler with Reading lettering on another thread. She was pretty close to the Williams model. I doubt that the Reading built her - no Wootten firebox. But she probably came from another road. During its long and colorful history, the Reading acquired as many as 150 different railroads. The Reading also had largest single investment in the South Pennsylvania Railroad between Andrew Carnegie's steel mills in Pittsburgh and the P&R at Harrisburg. Stone bridge piers for the South Penn still stand north of the Reading's bridge over the Susquehanna at Harrisburg, beginning at the west shore. They are visible from I-83 if a driver can glance over. The Reading wanted a link to western Pennsylvania, but the road was left holding the bag when J. P. Morgan halted construction.
 
A Williams 4-6-0 could be a locomotive acquired in a merger, bought from another road when the price was right, or running in pool service. Another tack is running Williams C&O 377 on a fantrip, or on a break-in run after repairs in the shops in Harrisburg or Reading.

 

I have the older Williams "King Coal" passenger cars in the Crown Edition. However I would love to have another more current set of Williams passenger cars with the Reading Company logo.

King Coal ran mainly between Philadelphia and Shamokin PA, near Scranton.

The Crusader ran between Philadelphia and Jersey City.

 

Another one I would love to see done is a steam engine from the Philadelphia and Reading Railways era.

 

Lee F.

Originally Posted by ReadingFan:
"I've been really eyeing the new 4-6-0, even though it doesn't fit at all with my late-steam Reading Co. focus."
 
Someone posted a photo of a Ten-Wheeler with Reading lettering on another thread. She was pretty close to the Williams model.

 

That was me, after I posted here.  Don't remind me, at least until my E5sa is done!  Looks like all it would really take would be to cut down the domes and cab, and change the headlight and numberboards.  And maybe the tender.

 

 

 

It's curious how within the Reading's L-4 and L-5 classes there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which ones are camelbacks and which are "conventional" engines.

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