NICE ! A Rerun of the E7's for 2018!

Scott does a great job of mathcin the paint on his runs. The El Cap sets first and second run are pretty close to dead nuts on

Just one of a few surprises for 2018.    With the current evolution of the drive, I'd be in for another Pennsy one.

Very excited! This is what I'll be looking for...

If he does a remake of the NYC versions with early paint I am in. Otherwise no sale.

Pete

I just wish 3rd Rail / Sunset Models would offer B-units for road-names that didn't have them in the prototype world.  I know I'm going against the grain here amidst a "scale" culture that only wants what existed in real life.  But there are those of in the 3-rail community that don't give a hoot about "minor details" like that.    I'd love to have an ABA for my Canadian Pacific E8's -- even though CP didn't run E8 B-units.  They would on my railroad!!!  

My suggestion: please leave all those hoses off the future E Unit model pilots.

Thanks.

GG1 4877 posted:

Just one of a few surprises for 2018.    With the current evolution of the drive, I'd be in for another Pennsy one.

Hope you get the correct pilots on the PRR......as built passenger pilots with coupler doors! None of that shovel nose stuff like last time.

Simon

Hot Water posted:

My suggestion: please leave all those hoses off the future E Unit model pilots.

Thanks.

Agree!

Simon

The second run E7s will make up for several sins from the first phase.  Pilots being one of them and the number of air hoses being another.  The first run E7s were the first injection molded diesel Sunset ever made and that was over 6 years ago now.  Things have come a long way. 

645 posted:

Any chance of Penn Central being offered in this second run? Was supposed to be part of the first run. A PC is basically a PRR unit minus trainphone antennas with a less fancy paint job although I concede in the late PRR days/PC era have to add those 45-degree numberboards - should be easy to do if PRR is being produced again this time around. Jonathan could use one or two of these for his NY&LB so I'm sure he did research on this already, right?

And the simplified late-1960's PRR version for comparison:

The Penn Central painting diagram is already done from when it was proposed in the first phase.    I unfortunately model my NY&LB roughly 1953-1957, but remember seeing lots of beat-up PC units in my early youth.  Offset number boards will be on the PRR Tuscan schemes and PC should it go forward this time.  The Alco PA's have them so the factory already knows how to cast them.

This is good news. Hope the ACL purple makes the cut as well as the SAL citrus scheme.l have two 1st run NYC units which I planned to repaint but now I will wait and see what is offered.

GG1 4877 posted:

The second run E7s will make up for several sins from the first phase.  Pilots being one of them and the number of air hoses being another.  The first run E7s were the first injection molded diesel Sunset ever made and that was over 6 years ago now.  Things have come a long way. 

Jonathan,

That is very good news, however will the new/latest E8/E9 models still have all those air hoses on the front pilot?

Illinois Central perchance?

City of New Orleans....

GG1 4877 posted:

645 posted:

Any chance of Penn Central being offered in this second run? Was supposed to be part of the first run. A PC is basically a PRR unit minus trainphone antennas with a less fancy paint job although I concede in the late PRR days/PC era have to add those 45-degree numberboards - should be easy to do if PRR is being produced again this time around. Jonathan could use one or two of these for his NY&LB so I'm sure he did research on this already, right?

And the simplified late-1960's PRR version for comparison:

The Penn Central painting diagram is already done from when it was proposed in the first phase.    I unfortunately model my NY&LB roughly 1953-1957, but remember seeing lots of beat-up PC units in my early youth.  Offset number boards will be on the PRR Tuscan schemes and PC should it go forward this time.  The Alco PA's have them so the factory already knows how to cast them.

For maximum ugly, do them in Tuscan Red.

Simon Winter posted:

Hot Water posted:

My suggestion: please leave all those hoses off the future E Unit model pilots.

Thanks.

Agree!

Simon

Agree!

Santiago

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

Simon Winter posted:

Hot Water posted:

My suggestion: please leave all those hoses off the future E Unit model pilots.

Thanks.

Agree!

Simon

Agree!

Santiago

Agree!

Big John 

Hey Scott, I'll take some of your E7's if you do it in L&N Passenger colors.......!

Hot Water posted:

GG1 4877 posted:

The second run E7s will make up for several sins from the first phase.  Pilots being one of them and the number of air hoses being another.  The first run E7s were the first injection molded diesel Sunset ever made and that was over 6 years ago now.  Things have come a long way. 

Jonathan,

That is very good news, however will the new/latest E8/E9 models still have all those air hoses on the front pilot?

Jack,

I believe the E8/E9 models will have the 6 air-hoses on the nose pilot like the first run.  We started pairing back air-hoses on the Alco PA moving forward. 

If you're going for more of an "as delivered" look for new diesel productions, it would be best to leave ALL the hoses off the pilot. Correct ones are a lot easier to add for the modelers.

Hot Water posted:

My suggestion: please leave all those hoses off the future E Unit model pilots.

Thanks.

+1.

BH

Interesting on da bay there are some that are selling off their e7's. Maybe anticipation of this new run?

Rocky Mountaineer, there's a 3rd Rail, NYC E7 B unit up for auction on e-bay.  Right now the bid is only 26.50.  If you could take that auction cheap enough it my be time to try to paint your own.

Well those E7b non powered units went for a pretty penny... Darn nearly msrp! I guess it's because this new run will be powered units only or there are many more with the A units and wanting the b units? 

I now see an auction house selling the " Train of Tomorrow" set. I wonder how much that will bring considering only 75+ sets were done in 3 rail and it was a bargain at $1500 for the set when announced... The equivalent HO set was twice the price with NO E7 diesel but you had to "roll your own" with the set coming with the fluted sides and emblems to sick on your custom diesel. 

It was a nice set. but the one I saw run had a real problem pulling the cars up a 2% grade. So I shied away fro getting one.

Bob

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Interesting on da bay there are some that are selling off their e7's. Maybe anticipation of this new run?

The early 3rd Rail E-7's left a lot to be desired, with tethered A/B units, cab back wall placement and a pilot that just never looked right.  But, as Jonathan stated, this was Scott's 1st diesel offering and I'm glad he took the plunge. New units should be a welcome edition for E-7 lovers. 

BH