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Hello,

 

Looking to do a layout that has at least O and S gauge together.  My grandson wants me to put HO and N on there also.   

 

I am sure this has been done before, does anyone have pictures they can share so I can start getting some ideas?

 

I would like to do this in a 8 X 8 layout if possible.

 

I think it would probably be best to have the S elevated.

 

Thank you for your time, Ron.

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Originally Posted by Moonman:

An interesting challenge. Not a lot to find web searching. I found one, Train-O-Rama, in Ohio, that has O & S. At 1:38 in this video, you can get a look at their approach.

 

Blending the scenery to connect the two "worlds" would seem to be a good way to make them work. When I think of wedding cake styles, it's just not that appealing.

 

Can you fit two 4 x 8's in an L shape?

Thanks for the reply Carl and the video.  50 trains running at once, wow!

 

Not sure if I could do the L shape, I would have to rearrange other items in the room.

 

Thank you for your time, Ron.

Originally Posted by banjoflyer:
Originally Posted by atlayank:

Hello,

 

Looking to do a layout that has at least O and S gauge together.  

This is certainly a do-able project.

An 8 X 8 table will allow for several loops of both gauges.

I have O and S on my layout also. 2 loops of S can be inside 1 loop of O even with O-36 curves on the O gauge loop.

However that would lead to putting the HO and N scale loops in the center of the layout giving you a smaller and smaller concentric loop layout.

A different approach might be to put the O gauge loop around the perimeter of the layout but make it "disappear" inside a mountain near the back of the layout.

The next loop in would be S gauge. It too could disappear near the back at some point.

The next S loop could remain visible for the entire loop.

Going up 1 level but staying to the rear area could be a loop of HO and farther back a loop of N.

This reduction in size as you go further back in the layout will give you "selective compression"...the illusion that things are farther away than they really are.

The use of different scale buildings will add to the illusion. O scale in the front...N scale farthest away.

An internet search of "Model train selective compression" will reveal more.

Good luck!

Mark

Hi Mark,

 

Thank you for replying and your input.

 

I like your idea about the selective compression.

 

Thank you for your time, Ron.

Originally Posted by Firewood:

Is that your layout Firewood? It's a nice execution of elevations. The wedding cake without the cake. It works well. I cannot hear the narrative after the music fades.

It answered one question that I was considering. 2 or three manufactures make O & S scale track that looks the same. I thought that would help, but I can see in the video that it really wouldn't make a big difference.

 

Thanks for posting the video.

 

Originally Posted by atlayank:
Originally Posted by Moonman:

An interesting challenge. Not a lot to find web searching. I found one, Train-O-Rama, in Ohio, that has O & S. At 1:38 in this video, you can get a look at their approach.

 

Blending the scenery to connect the two "worlds" would seem to be a good way to make them work. When I think of wedding cake styles, it's just not that appealing.

 

Can you fit two 4 x 8's in an L shape?

Thanks for the reply Carl and the video.  50 trains running at once, wow!

 

Not sure if I could do the L shape, I would have to rearrange other items in the room.

 

Thank you for your time, Ron.

I was observing the scenery transitions with the mixing of gauges. I think we could all enjoy a nice size building for our layout.

 

First a comparison shot. The a concept photo of the L with a mountain as the transition.

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Here's a 4 scale 8 x 8, track with roadbed. The S and N elevated lines would look better without roadbed.

 

So, Lionel for O, Bachman EZ for HO, Gargraves for elevated S and Atlas for elevated N.

 

O outside at 0". S next at 5.5", then HO at 0", finally N at 7". The smaller trains are behind the larger and the scales alternate, so a direct comparison view doesn't happen.

 

Thanks, Firewood.

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Last edited by Moonman
Originally Posted by Moonman:

Here's a 4 scale 8 x 8, track with roadbed. The S and N elevated lines would look better without roadbed.

 

So, Lionel for O, Bachman EZ for HO, Gargraves for elevated S and Atlas for elevated N.

 

O outside at 0". S next at 5.5", then HO at 0", finally N at 7". The smaller trains are behind the larger and the scales alternate, so a direct comparison view doesn't happen.

 

Thanks, Firewood.

Thank you Firewood!

 

Love seeing it in its simplest form so I can start there.

 

I have Fastrack for S also.  Do you think this will fit?

 

Thank you for your time, Ron.

 

I was observing the scenery transitions with the mixing of gauges. I think we could all enjoy a nice size building for our layout.

 

First a comparison shot. The a concept photo of the L with a mountain as the transition.

Thank you for sharing the L layout.  Looks nice with the mountain in there.

 

Thank you for your time.

Originally Posted by atlayank:
Originally Posted by Moonman:

Here's a 4 scale 8 x 8, track with roadbed. The S and N elevated lines would look better without roadbed.

 

So, Lionel for O, Bachman EZ for HO, Gargraves for elevated S and Atlas for elevated N.

 

O outside at 0". S next at 5.5", then HO at 0", finally N at 7". The smaller trains are behind the larger and the scales alternate, so a direct comparison view doesn't happen.

 

Thanks, Firewood.

Thank you Firewood!

 

Love seeing it in its simplest form so I can start there.

 

I have Fastrack for S also.  Do you think this will fit?

 

Thank you for your time, Ron.

atlayank,

I was thanking Firewood for the concept. I liked the setup in the video and used it for the 4 gauge concept.

 

I didn't use the FasTrack S because the curve size didn't match aesthetically. Also, that's the first elevated. Roadbed on elevated just doesn't look as good as open ties. That's why I posted the top view. I felt if the trains were on to much of a difference in curve shape, it may look strange. One train sweeping and one train turning quickly

kind of thing.

 

use what you have. It's your layout. I am just tossing out some ideas.

Last edited by Moonman

Hello, 

 

I have been playing around with my layout and have tried a couple of different ways to have the different gauges on the same layout. The layout is now only a 4 x 8 but I have had O, S, HO and N together at the same time.  Nothing more than ovals when all 4 gauges are on the same layout, but there is still a lot of action with all 4 going at the same time. 

 

I am am includng some pictures so you can see what I have tried. Any feedback would be great. 

 

 

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On my first crude floor layout I had Standard gauge on the outside loop and O on the two inside but didn't like it. I felt that the big Standard gauge was too dominating. Then later I tried a loop of S gauge but later took it out because it seemed lost with the O gauge. That was my experience but a lot of guys use different gauges and I always thought it would be fun.  Maybe on a bigger layout than I had it would work but my old one was about 10'x10' but I would try it if I were you.

Originally Posted by atlayank:

Hello, 

 

I have been playing around with my layout and have tried a couple of different ways to have the different gauges on the same layout. The layout is now only a 4 x 8 but I have had O, S, HO and N together at the same time.  Nothing more than ovals when all 4 gauges are on the same layout, but there is still a lot of action with all 4 going at the same time. 

 

I am am includng some pictures so you can see what I have tried. Any feedback would be great. 

 

 

Nice work.

 

I've always thought about combining O, HO, and N on the same layout (5x9 or 4x8) to satisfy my interest in all 3 scales, but could never really move beyond the drawing board.  The version that usually came up was the "wedding cake" that rose to a corner in the rear, with the O on the 5x9 (leaving space for operating accessories), the HO on a 4x7 and the N on a 3x5, with both the HO and O operating in tunnels for half of the loop and the N out in the open the entire time. Maybe someday

 

I like what you've done with what seems to be your raised "N" level at one end.  Could you provide some photos of that area in more detail?

 

 

 

Keep it up.

Firewood, I love the video you posted. It shows that a layout can be fun even when tracks are left open and mounted on dowels and other supports vs being filled in with mountain landscaping. I'm working on a 10x12 horseshoe, but if that doesn't work out, I might try something like that on a 6x12 or 7x12 island. In fact, I might work up a plan for something that anyway. I've still got a month, maybe more, before I can actually start constructon anyway.

 

I like what you've done with what seems to be your raised "N" level at one end.  Could you provide some photos of that area in more detail?

 

Sorry Kevin, I have already taken the raised N level off of the layout.  My layout is permanently temporary I guess.  All it consisted of was a 2 x 4 feet piece of raised cardboard so that it created a tunnel for the O, S and HO to go under and to have a small oval of N scale up on top.

 

Thanks for the comment. 

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