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I just got off the phone with Heartland Hobby and they said Kader the parent company of K-line has offered them some items manufactured from the K-line Dies. They would not comment if the product was from RMT. The pricing seems to be very good. We will have these items in stock early next week. I think it has to be from the the RMT order, one of the cars is Walter's Beer. I have the items listed below. We will have these items up on our site as soon as possible. Please feel free to call us with an order. Here is what we were told straight from HHW, <big><big>THIS IS A ONE TIME ONLY PRODUCTION - A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY 
LIGHT UP YOUR CHRISTMAS SALES WITH THESE FANTASTIC PRICES</big></big>

PLEASE NOTE SOME ITEMS ARE SOLD OUT, WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE PRICE SHEET TO REFLECT ITEMS LEFT

PLEASE NOTE THESE ITEMS ARE LIVE ON OUR SITE FOR ORDERING AT WWW.PATSTRAINS.COM

FREIGHT CARS  http://www.patstrains.com/Find...D=1&go=Find+Fast

PASSENGER CARS http://www.patstrains.com/Find...D=2&go=Find+Fast

LOCOMOTIVES AND MOTORIZED UNITS http://www.patstrains.com/Find...D=3&go=Find+Fast

TRACK  http://www.patstrains.com/Find...=26&go=Find+Fast

FIGURES  http://www.patstrains.com/Find...=13&go=Find+Fast

BUILDINGS  http://www.patstrains.com/Find...D=4&go=Find+Fast

NOW IN STOCK

 

 

Thanks

Pat

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 OLR167CABOOSE CANCER CURE #2$22.99
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 OLR172N5C CABOOSE – PRR #477929$30.99
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 OLR174N5C CABOOSE - PRR #477968$30.99
    
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 OLR202AMTRAK STREAMLINER DOME & OBSERVATION 2/PKS/O
    
 OLR203AATSF STREAMLINER 4/PK (BAG, COACH, DOME, OBS)$129.99
 OLR203ATSF STREAMLINER COACH & BAGGAGE 2/PKS/O
    
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 OLR808FIGURE SET PARK FIGURES (6) + BENCH$9.99
 OLR809FIGURES SET FREIGHT STATION + ACCESS.$9.99
 OLR810FIGURE SET GAS STATION + ACESS.$9.99
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  LIGHTED STATUE OF LIBERTY W/ BASE 
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Last edited by PATSTRAINS
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Originally Posted by Tuscan Jim:
 

I was going to say "let the speculation begin" and you just beat me with the post!

No speculation needed.  We have all been in this hobby long enough to recognize an ominous sign when we see it.  A manufacturer dumping the only authorized distributers products does not bode well for the distributor.  Someone explain how this could be anything but bad (except for us as buyers).  BigRail

Joe, long story short, Kader when it was Sanda Kan, made the majority of the K-Line products. When K-Line went belly up, they owned millions to Sanda Kan, so Sanda Kan (now Kader) got possession of the tooling to do with as they see fit.

 

Pat, this sure sounds like what some have guessed, as an inventory dumping. But who really knows.

 

What it really says folks, is just how hard it is to be in this 3-rail business in a truly saturated small market that is now more diverse than ever. At one time, 3-rail was pretty much traditionally sized. Now it's also scale, and then add in all the various technology features from different companies.

 

I'd gather sales are soft on everything. I've seen reduced prices on starter sets and some rolling stock, but not like years past. Lionel is monitoring production figures much more closely on everything. And RMT has been sending out emails with reduced prices on stuff, that doesn't appear to be selling even at lower prices. The BEEF is already advertised as being discontinued forever, so it obviously was kind of a dud, sales-wise. He should have made it more traditional in size and features like the BEEP.

 

This is where Menards seems to have their finger right directly on the pulse of the current buyer, at least concerning price.

 

And remember, even if an item has individual strong sales, the quantities being made are much smaller. Like it or not, call it what you will, but the built to order model is here to stay until there is such growth in the market to warrant otherwise.

Last edited by brianel_k-lineguy
Originally Posted by Fridge56Vet:

       

Quick question, as K-Line's demise pre-dates my involvement in O: would the rolling stock be scale or traditionally sized?  Thanks. 

 

- Neal


       
K-Line went both ways... producing terrific scale aluminum passenger cars and scale aluminum tankers.  Ore cars could fit both types of layouts.  Other stuff was strictly traditional.  The stuff here appears to be traditional-sized.

David

You can go way back to 1946 but when a medium/large manufacturer/distributor goes "direct sales", they always fail.  I can't think of any that has survived that sales strategy. General Models, Scale-Craft, Marx (circa 2001) and many in between.

 

Also keep in mind that both Atlas and Lionel were offered the K-line tooling then took a pass after dealing with Kader.  They knew something, n'est pas?

 

J2M

 

Originally Posted by Fridge56Vet:

Quick question, as K-Line's demise pre-dates my involvement in O: would the rolling stock be scale or traditionally sized?  Thanks. 

 

- Neal

It looks like a mix. Most of the items seem to be traditional size, but the billboard reefers that K-Line made were scale size: Doggie Dinner and the like.

 

 

OLR125REEFER MERCHANTS BISCUIT 6461923$29.99
 OLR126REEFER MERCHANTS BISCUIT 6192311$29.99
 OLR127REEFER MCLAHNERY CREAMERY 6461924$29.99
 OLR128REEFER MCLAHNERY CREAMERY 6192411$29.99
 OLR129REEFER WILSON 6462925$29.99
 OLR130REEFER WILSON 6192511$29.99
 OLR131REEFER IGA FOOD 6461926$29.99
 OLR132REEFER IGA FOOD 6192611$29.99
 OLR133REEFER A & P FOOD 6161927$29.99
 OLR134REEFER A & P FOOD 6192711$29.99
 OLR135REEFER DOGGIE DINNER 6461928$29.99
 OLR136REEFER DOGGIE DINNER 6192811
Last edited by RoyBoy
Originally Posted by TN:

       

I have the Swift / Armour and UP reefers and they are definitely not scale.

If some are scale I'd like too know before I place an order. ...


Generally speaking, I think the only RMT rolling stock that would qualify as having "scale dimensions" are the ore cars.  And I don't see any of those listed here.  So the stuff here is what I'd call traditional-sized 6464-style rolling stock.  If in doubt, I'd ask your dealer.

David
Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:
Originally Posted by TN:

       

I have the Swift / Armour and UP reefers and they are definitely not scale.

If some are scale I'd like too know before I place an order. ...


Generally speaking, I think the only RMT rolling stock that would qualify as having "scale dimensions" are the ore cars.  And I don't see any of those listed here.  So the stuff here is what I'd call traditional-sized 6464-style rolling stock.  If in doubt, I'd ask your dealer.

David

That's what I figured.

Originally Posted by Diok S:

Kader owns Bachmann and Sanda Kan.  This looks like all the RMT stuff that was due out in 2016.  Seems that RMT will be history soon.  Not surprising, every week I get emails from them about fantastic, stupendous, incredible sales.  Like the Sunday car dealer ads.

He killed his dealer network that would help carry his inventory and sell it. Tough to go it alone. His plan was flawed from the beginning. I hope no members loose out..But I will be surprised if you don't hear from him once his existing inventory is gone.. Bad business model.. 

Originally Posted by PATSTRAINS:

Hey, Guys

We will have a nice supply of these items.  I will post pictures as soon as I get them.  Thanks for all of the orders.  I wanted to give the OGR members first shot at these items.  Pat

Pat, are those prices listed the prices at which you are selling, or what you will be paying?   They are titled as "cost," leading me to believe that it the wholesale cost to retailers.

These are the sale prices.
Thanks
Pat
Originally Posted by RadioRon:
Originally Posted by PATSTRAINS:

Hey, Guys

We will have a nice supply of these items.  I will post pictures as soon as I get them.  Thanks for all of the orders.  I wanted to give the OGR members first shot at these items.  Pat

Pat, are those prices listed the prices at which you are selling, or what you will be paying?   They are titled as "cost," leading me to believe that it the wholesale cost to retailers.

 

They are the old K-line
Passenger Car Features
  •   13 1 /2 inches long
  •   O Gauge
  •   Overhead StreamLighting® Illumination
  •   Fully Furnished Interiors
  •   Metal Grab Rails
  •   Needle Point Axles
  •   Fast Angle Wheels
  •   Operating Metal Couplers
  •   Underside Detailing
  •   Authentic Paint Schemes
  •   Diaphragms
Originally Posted by arrsd90:

Any note on the sizes, of the Passenger cars!!

 

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