O scale Indy Fall Show ?

There was as of a few days ago a list of vendors on the web site....all 3 of them.

Thank you!

I was wondering if Sunset, Atlas, Midwestern Models, etc was going to be at the show.

Stephen

I haven't been there in a few years but was thinking of going this year.  I am hoping to find some older stuff and you never know what you might come across.  

Thanks

Don

Most of the vendors and attendees fall in that category,

Sometimes the dates for some vendors conflict with other shows that they go to.  

 

Norm's O Scale is usually there along with Bill Davis American Scale Models.   Bill ofter has a nice selection of older stuff.   P&D Hobbies and Ted Schneff Rails Unlimited are usually there also.

 

There are many tables of individuals selling of extra stuff and of course many vendors that I don't know the names of.   

 

 

 

Doubt Atlas will be there, know Kohs won't be there (and so do you, see below...) would expect Sunset to have a rep there... MMW is close enough by to attend. 

 

I'll be there knowing well it isn't a March Meet but is worth a day drive for the fellowship and fun.   

 

OH, and You weren't a happy camper last year:

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...43#35358642113096043

 

I'll be attending, I can't wait.  And, I'm not a vendor 

Rule292: I wish you would stop instigating.

I found things, but did not buy them as I said, yet I later purchased an item from a dealer that I took a business card from. I love it! If I were not happy I would not go again.

This show will be different in that 3-rail will be part of the show.

If there main players for a convention are not there, then this is certainly not a "National Convention" Just some HAPPY THOUGHTS< Stephen

Has not changed:

2015 Vendors

 

Chuck Hinshaw

David Richter

Ron Sebastian- Des Plaines Hobbies

Still no additions to the gang of 3, but I did notice something unusual on the schedule. For Saturday, dealer set up starts at 8:30 as usual. Show opens at 9:00 as usual. If you follow the listing order the next line down shows 11:00 as closing followed by layout tours at 3:00.

I am certain the show doesn't close until 3:00 but the schedule doesn't really indicate that.  The reality is that the show is, for all practicle purposes, over by noon on Saturday.

Talked to Jim Canter last year after the show and asked why the second day of the show couldn't be held on Sunday.  Jim said he had no problem moving the show over to Sunday. All the vendors said they were in favor, apparently hotel not available - too bad.  Not a good idea to close the show so early on Saturday, a lot of people left out.  Isn't it the idea to have as many people attend the show as possible?  It only comes once a year.

Maybe getting a bit in front of the event might help - like getting the hall//rooms and hotel contract in place well in advance might help?

Just came through - change of dates to 9/11-12

 

http://www.indyoscalenational.com/

Outstanding! It's less than a mile from my work!

 

 

I see the Saturday schedule still calls for the show to be open for only 2 hours - 9 to 11 AM. Somehow I don't believe that is what the show sponsor intends, but it is what the schedule says.

That's just flat out goofy, too.

 

E-mail that I received on that detail:

 

Saturday, September 12, 2015

Trading Hall                    9 am - 3 pm

Awards                    11 am

Is this show any better than the Cleveland show these days? I don't want to drive that far unless it is really something special.

The new updated ad is in the last issue of The O Scale Resource. It appears that the 11AM time should have been for the awards, not closing the floor.

Unlike the one at the top of the page here that still has the old dates on it. 

I'm wondering how many people will show up at either set of dates,

I'll be there.  Probably will get a table and try to sell some 3RS items.

Please NO 3rail in a 2-rail Show! ! ! ! !  York is for 3- rail stuff. My opinion, and a good one at that! My opinion of course.

Stephen

Suggest you express that thought to the show organizers.  Their contact information is on the web site for your convenience.

I'll probably bring a case of N&W aquarium and giraffe cars.  Includes 2r wheels and Kadees loose.

Hope they sell!

Stephen

Changing times, if the organizers want to keep the show viable attendance and table holder wise.Just saying.

I am planning on getting a table also for a little horse trading. 

At the Chicago march meet I sold two Lionel scale 27xxx cars and I think I have one or two more to sell.   The Lionel 60' reefer and ACF stock car sold before any of my "2 rail" items did.

 

I am hoping someone has some of the new Lionel PRR GLa cars there to examine and/or purchase since they appear to be state of the art renditions of the most popular 2 pocket hoppers from the steam era. 

 

That is unless someone knows where the same quality and price cars are in "2 rail"

 

I would not consider doing so, except that the organizers are marketing this show to include Hi Rail and Scale 3R (cf. Registration form).

 

Furthermore, many find that a substantive portion of 3RS items are fungible with 2R - loosen a few screws, swap wheelsets/trucks and couplers and the item is equivalent.  To wit, 2R and 3R Atlas CZ psgr cars are identical except for a few minor details such as wheels and couplers.  In fact, some of the 3R CZ cars I plan to offer were purchased as 2R.  Life is too short to get hung up on simple reconfiguration.

I have seen over the years where 3-rail was eventually allowed and after a few years it becaome predominantly a 3 rail show. If 2 railers are looking for 3-rail items to convert to 2-rail, then they should go to York. Just some thoughts to consider. Stephen

It sure hasn't worked that way at the Chicago March Meet. Granted, not much 3-Rail, but many 3-Rail modelers have been coming to the March Meet, and nobody seems to have been harmed.

Roger.

 

The header says "O" Scale P:48 On30 On3 Scale 3 Rail Hi Rail Books. 

 

All are suitable for 2 railing.

 

And in some instances (the Lionel H43 scale hopper for example) the 3 rail items are even better than much of the non-brass 2 rail... even approaching brass in quality.

 

If the show becomes filled with toy train items I would suspect the promoters might ut the brakes on the "diversity" of the show. 

 

 

I can go to 1/2 dozen shows within an hour's drive that are predominently 3-rail.   I got Indy, Cleveland and Chicago because they are 2-rail.   

 

I know there is stuff to convert, but there are so many 3-rail dealers and buyers, that they sort of overwhelm the 2 rail and take over the show.  

 

If it goes that route, I will stop going.   No need to drive that far for the samo-samo.

Obiviously with falling attendance for all the O scale meets [even Chicago] this meet needs the most help, the promoter is in a position to control the seller table requests so that the main purpose of the meet is still O scale 2 rail.JMO

Gregg,

Which day are you going to be there? 

I'm the guy you mailed the GGD pictures too.

 

I'm planning to attend on Friday...

I just mailed in my reservation for a table today. 

 

EVERY O scale meet deserves our support...

I no longer have a dog in this race, as I now exclusively model in two rail in HO (which I never left).  However, IMHO, if you want this show to grow and survive, I'd suggest that achieving critical mass needs to include the scale three rail crowd too.  When I was active in scale hi-rail with the IHMD, I attended every March Meet, and drove down on three occasions for the Indy show.  

 

During two March Meets, Hot Water had his three rail railroad on the layout tour, and I don't recall any two railers turning into frogs from viewing it.    But then again, maybe I was too distracted from having too much fun and missed such an event.   

 

Regards, 

Jerry

 

"I know there is stuff to convert, but there are so many 3-rail dealers and buyers, that they sort of overwhelm the 2 rail and take over the show."

 

I have the same concern regarding the Strasburg Show.

 

Ed

I'm not worried about the prevalence of 3 rail stuff at a 2 rail meet.

 

One of the better concerns was mentioned at a March Meet a few years ago.  The fellow said that European O scale meets are filled with modelers and manufacturers and sellers showing their state of the art models whilst American O scale shows are filled with boxes of "junk" (their word not mine) of antique O scale parts from the 30's/40's/50's and overpriced brass and plastic. 

 

Tables filled with overpriced things that end up going back with the seller is more of my concern. 

Maybe the dwindling attendence is the way the show is run. Not all 2-railers are retired and can afford to go on Friday in what is normally a work day for some. Then it is not worth while to go on Saturday when most of the dealers are gone by NOON. Saturday at Indy sucks for those that travel a long distance on their only day off. Just some thoughts to think about.

Stephen

 

Suggest you express that thought to the show organizers.  Their contact information is on the web site for your convenience.

 

And, being a vendor there, I can tell you that after noon that there's next to no one other than vendors in the hall.  We stand around until 3 pm and it's a ghost town.  It's no wonder that some pack up and leave early if they can make it home in a reasonable amount of time.

 

Moving it all to the weekend makes no difference to me - still costs me 2 days off from work - yup, not retired.