Rusty Traque posted:FireOne posted:Not steam but pretty obscure.
Chris Sheldon
Bachmann made it in On30:
Rusty
Thanks Rusty, have two in Green and Silver in On30. Want one in G Scale for my outdoor layout. May have to do some kit bashing.
Chris Sheldon
Not really obscure - I sure wish Sunset 3rd rail would do a Milwaukee Road S2
I tend to want engines I have a connection to. The one I have had the most experience with is actually quite obscure, there isn't anything remotely close to it out there model-wise. Funny thing is it's just a little Alco-Cook consolidation.
her size makes her unique, if I remember right engine and tender combined weigh just 90 tons, she is not superheated, and has walschearts (sp?) valve gear and no power reverse. Built in 1920.
Here's another look at Baldwin 60000, an unsung hero of steam loco development.
To my knowledge no one has made an accurate O scale model of this unique loco. It would be a natural for MTH because reportedly the prototype was delivered in PURPLE paint! As a demonstrator it ran on many RRs and was fueled by both oil and coal during its demo run. And the best part... it still exists in nearly perfect condition, buried in the basement of Philadelphia's Franklin Institute for over 70 years!
As a consolation prize i would settle for one of these. It does exist!
Privately owned, rumored to have been scrapped, and hidden in a Pittsburgh warehouse for over 40 years, this big B&LE 2-10-4 #643 came to light when the building housing it collapsed. Now exposed to the weather its fate is uncertain. A nice model would raise awareness and appreciation for a pretty awesome freight hog!
Ted Sowirka posted:As a consolation prize i would settle for one of these. It does exist!
Privately owned, rumored to have been scrapped, and hidden in a Pittsburgh warehouse for over 40 years, this big B&LE 2-10-4 #643 came to light when the building housing it collapsed. Now exposed to the weather its fate is uncertain. A nice model would raise awareness and appreciation for a pretty awesome freight hog!
Sunset/3rd Rail has already offered models of the DM&IR and B&LE 2-10-4s.
Here's a handsome loco you'll never see in O.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/...2588@N08/16387077752
Missouri Pacific class MT-75 Mountain. There were only seven altogether, 1939 rebuilds of USRA light mountains, done in MoPac's own Sedalia shops. These had 75" drivers, steam pressure of 250 psi, and burned oil.
Isn't this the "A" train?
nickaix posted:Here's a handsome loco you'll never see in O.
Missouri Pacific class MT-75 Mountain. There were only seven altogether, 1939 rebuilds of USRA light mountains, done in MoPac's own Sedalia shops. These had 75" drivers, steam pressure of 250 psi, and burned oil.
Now they look like they can pull a fair sized freight train.Didn,t mp have a few 2-10-4 locomotives?
JonnyAce posted:It seems like every time I do some more research, I run across another really cool locomotive that I inevitably want to add to my collection, but unfortunately it's too odd or obscure for the major manufacturers to produce. Case in point: one of the seven Baldwin-built 2-6-6-4's for the Pittsburgh & West Virginia. Seriously, these things are really cool.
They've got some very interesting details, like the Belpaire firebox, the booster engine on the rear tender truck with counterweights and side rods, smokebox-mounted air pumps, and the relatively tall twin stacks. This got me wondering, what about some of you guys? What unique locomotives would you love to add to your collections that are too obscure for the manufacturers? Let's see some pictures.
Hey there!The seaboard air line railroad had a few of these.I talked to an old railroad man.He tolded me that these were great for pulling freight trains.Seaboard also had some 2-8-8-2 but they were to long for the turntable.
JohnActon posted:Though not generally a Deleware & Hudson fan,I would love to see any of many unique locomotives that were owned by the Delaware & Hudson Railroad. Three of my favorites were #604 Pacific, #442 American, and their class E-5a Consolidation which was perhaps the most powerful Connie ever built with nearly 73,000 lb tractive force. They were not only unique but most were quite beautiful locomotives. The D&H truly marched to their own drum.
Those are pretty locomotives - I've always liked the clean lines. First time I've seen the 4-4-0. Thanks!
Here's the P-1 Pacific: 
How about a UP 2-10-2?
Although not odd and obscure, UP had a LOT of them.
Ted Sowirka posted:As a consolation prize i would settle for one of these. It does exist!
Privately owned, rumored to have been scrapped, and hidden in a Pittsburgh warehouse for over 40 years, this big B&LE 2-10-4 #643 came to light when the building housing it collapsed. Now exposed to the weather its fate is uncertain. A nice model would raise awareness and appreciation for a pretty awesome freight hog!
I have been up close and personal with this engine when it was still under roof-with the owner’s permission. It is a massive ugly ungainly beast of a machine. It would be fantastically impressive to see in action, but it will never happen. Even if the owner wasn’t off his rocker, the sheer size would require trackage quality not available to tourist operators. It would make an impressive static display piece but first it would need transportation out of McKees Rocks, which would be expensive all by itself. Sadly this is another piece of history that will simply rust away.
Oh,boy. .l see I have not whined on this list, unlike many previously, about wanting GW #90, Little River 2-4-4-2 (either one), (l never heard of a D&SL 2-4-4-2,but could get interested in dozen driver D&SL power). And above others have asked for the C&O Mikado, too. And small, actual logging two truck Heislers and Climaxes. And, then there are all the critters: Macks, McKeens, varied gas electrics, and the list goes on....
Maybe not so odd, but somewhat obscure: Burlington T2 2-6-6-2 mallets employed on the severe grades in the Black Hills.
How about a 2-8-2 small Mikado lettered for Oregon Pacific and Eastern . This locomotive appeared in Emperor Of The North movie. This engine has never been made in O scale and I believe not in any other scale.
A good idea, and not just for three railers, either. A lot of us fooling around in two-rail are baffled as to why the latest brass releases almost all seem to be for big enginers that need very large radius track to go around curves when fewer and fewer of us are likely to have the room.
For that matter, before many of us were born, Gordon Varney made models of SP 4-6-0s. Maybe models done to today's modeling standards with today's technology in both two-rail and three-rail versions would be a good idea?
Mister_Lee posted:A good idea, and not just for three railers, either. A lot of us fooling around in two-rail are baffled as to why the latest brass releases almost all seem to be for big enginers that need very large radius track to go around curves when fewer and fewer of us are likely to have the room.
For that matter, before many of us were born, Gordon Varney made models of SP 4-6-0s. Maybe models done to today's modeling standards with today's technology in both two-rail and three-rail versions would be a good idea?
Good idea but from what I've seen. Model RR guys tend to want the beast! Not the lamb.
Jim
Let me see if I can remember all of the comments above:
Nobody has done the Baldwin 60000 in O? Provably not true, at least if one considers a 17/64 model on O track to be O Scale.
The Missouri Pacific Mountain? Really rare, but produced in 1940 by Lobaugh.
OR&N Harriman Mike? So close to Sunset's SP or UP Mike that all you would need is a square tender. And some decals.
UP 2-10-2? Max Gray/USH. Too bad they didn't do the SP Deck with proper boiler.
SP 4-6-0s by Varney? Well, there was one that sort of looked like the B&O Ten-Wheeler of Varney fame. Sort of. Stand by - I have a model of the 2353, the very last SP ten wheeler to see steam.
Purple! At least the 60000:
More than anything, I'd want a Baldwin S118 Class 2-8-2 in On30. I took this shot of 195 at Skagway, AK and have ridden the cab or another of her type in 2005:
Davenport narrow gauge 2-6-2 would be great, too:
bob2 posted:Let me see if I can remember all of the comments above:
UP 2-10-2? Max Gray/USH. Too bad they didn't do the SP Deck with proper boiler.
Yes sir, I have three of them in my collection...
Ted Sowirka posted:As a consolation prize i would settle for one of these. It does exist!
Privately owned, rumored to have been scrapped, and hidden in a Pittsburgh warehouse for over 40 years, this big B&LE 2-10-4 #643 came to light when the building housing it collapsed. Now exposed to the weather its fate is uncertain. A nice model would raise awareness and appreciation for a pretty awesome freight hog!
Is this engine still in Pittsburgh? If so, where. I grew up near the city, and I have no knowledge of this ever existing.
Thanks
-Carl
Carl Peduzzi posted:Ted Sowirka posted:As a consolation prize i would settle for one of these. It does exist!
Privately owned, rumored to have been scrapped, and hidden in a Pittsburgh warehouse for over 40 years, this big B&LE 2-10-4 #643 came to light when the building housing it collapsed. Now exposed to the weather its fate is uncertain. A nice model would raise awareness and appreciation for a pretty awesome freight hog!
Is this engine still in Pittsburgh? If so, where. I grew up near the city, and I have no knowledge of this ever existing.
Thanks
-Carl
I saw the later post stating it was in McKees Rocks. Next time I’m in town, I’ll need to at least look it up.
bob2 posted:
The Missouri Pacific Mountain? Really rare, but produced in 1940 by Lobaugh.
Which class? These were not USRA engines . . . .
Growing up in Indiana and visiting the Indianapolis Children's Museum several times, I always thought the Reuben Wells would make a cool model. It was made to run up and down steep inclines and if the model could do the same, it would make for some interesting layout options.
Back to my argument in favor of updated versions of the "Varney" 4-6-0. Producing a new, updated version might be blatant faux-stalgia (false nostalgia), but K Line did it with their three-rail B&O Docksiders.
Canadian Pacific 3000 4-4-4. Marx did it, but no one else has.
Is it correct to assume this was not a photoshopped picture, but a WWII-era paint job?
The T1 has been modeled repeatedly, so I hope it is not considered cheating to suggest another model of one during the later war years, with the running gear all accessible, with the sharknose paint job, and perhaps warhorse-style weathered.
David
David98 posted:
Is it correct to assume this was not a photoshopped picture, but a WWII-era paint job?
No. I can't say with absolute certainty, but I think someone is pulling your chain.
Simon
That's easy: Baldwin 60000. It was a three-cylinder compound 4-10-2 that tested on a lot of roads, and didn't find a buyer. Essentially Baldwin's "high technology" offering at a time when steam was undergoing a major transformation. Railroads didn't like the maintenance requirements of its high-pressure water tube boiler, or the compound steam circuit. Lima's Super Power Berkshire won the day and four-wheel trailing trucks became the norm. Preserved in excellent condition in a museum in Philadelphia, where I've visited it several times since childhood. But today, few people know or care about this big, handsome Baldwin with its Vanderbilt coal tender.
The icing on the cake? Some accounts say the demonstrator left the factory in Purple paint! 3rd Rail did an SP 4-10-2 a while back that was close, I guess I should have asked Scott to throw us Easterners a bone when I had the chance!
Delaware & Hudson had several odd
RoyBoy posted:Canadian Pacific 3000 4-4-4. Marx did it, but no one else has.
That is the Jubilee and Weaver made a really nice one.
Delaware & Hudson had too many original designs to count. Google, Delaware & Hudson steam locomotive and take a look. Among my favorites a pair of 4-4-0 Americans. They also had some 500psi water tube boiler locos which produced over 100,000 lbs of tractive force from a 2-8-0 wheel arrangement. j
This is the first of a long line of Cab Forwards ever built. It was home built by the Northwestern Pacific RR in Northern California. SP was the parent company of the line. #21 was an oil burner and ran in Marin and Sonoma counties. It would make a great little period locomotive. 
Don
Manufacturers, in their deja-vu repetitious mode, would not appreciate my posting titled," Prototype railroads' equipment l will NOT buy". There is already a saturated market of it.
sncf231e posted:jimcap posted:Pennsylvania Power and Light Company “D” 0-8-0 would be cool.
Close enough?
Regards
Fred
Close, but no cigar.
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