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I have a Lionel B&M GP9 #2346 from 1965/66.

I have three questions on the paint, to determine if it is a restoration or not.

1. Should the large BM lettering on the side of the locomotive be heat stamped or painted? How can I tell?

2. On my loco, the white paint for the B does not cover the blue of the body very well and the black on the M is not very crisp on the edges. Is this correct?

3. On the inside of the shell there is blue and black overspray and a small piece of masking tape. The inside of the shell appears to be grey, except for the overspray. Should there be this overspray?

Jeff

 

 

 

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Hi Jeff.  My 2346 purchased in the late 60's has no grey on the inside.  It's blue with some black overspray.  The B&M logo paint does not cover the blue at the door indents, otherwise clean and sharp,  I can't say it's heat stamped for sure cause it looks so good, but the cab is definitely heat stamped.  Hope this helps.  RICH

I have a reference book, the standard catalog of Lionel trains 1945-1969,  by Doyle.  It says the 2346 "had a black plastic body painted blue, white heat stamped lettering and a black and white heat stamped "BM" on each side. the frame was painted white. "

Note: Based on what Chuck Sator states later on in this thread, i think the Doyle comment about the BM logo being heat stamped is highly likely to be wrong.

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Thank you Dave, Rich, Bobby, and Chuck,

Your analysis and comments have been very helpful. In addition, Chuck provided an off-line description to me of pad printing and heat stamp differentiation that helped confirm the locomotive is not a restoration. I'm ready to oil/lube, put a standard leak prone D cell in the holder (just kidding), hit a few warning blasts with the horn, and pull some trains.

 

 

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