Hi everyone. I am going to pre-order the "Century Green" NYC E8s from Lionel. Can anyone help with suggestions for a consist? I'm also planning to pre-order the Dreyfuss and 20th Century Limited passenger cars, although I think this version would be too early for the E8s? I'm not going for super prototypical, but something in the ballpark for what the E8s would have pulled would be nice. Maybe even a freight consist, if they were used that way later on?
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The 20th Century as Lionel is producing it would only be prototypical for 1938-1940, and the EMD E8 wasn't introduced until 1949. Plus the experimental Jade green paint scheme was only used on an E8 A-B-A set between 1960-61, so definitely not prototypical to run with the '38 century cars. A prototypical consist would include a hodge podge of late 50's, early 60's NYC passenger equipment (Lionel has made some over the past few years) or else a freight consist matched to the era.
At the end of the day, though, its your layout and you can do whatever you like! I'm sure they will be a beautiful set.
@Catonsville Central Railway posted:The 20th Century as Lionel is producing it would only be prototypical for 1938-1940, and the EMD E8 wasn't introduced until 1949. Plus the experimental Jade green paint scheme was only used on an E8 A-B-A set between 1960-61, so definitely not prototypical to run with the '38 century cars. A prototypical consist would include a hodge podge of late 50's, early 60's NYC passenger equipment (Lionel has made some over the past few years) or else a freight consist matched to the era.
At the end of the day, though, its your layout and you can do whatever you like! I'm sure they will be a beautiful set.
Thanks Woody. Yep - just looking for a starting point/some direction and your post is helpful! I think that with the Dreyfuss running 14 feet of passenger cars around, that a freight consist matched to the era might look cool behind the E8s. I may go that route and work on making a list of suitable options. I like to pickup rolling stock at train shows when I can, and I imagine I could make a criteria of era/road names/car type to look out for.
Custom Jade Green Hoppers would look great!
Lots of shots of the Century Green (jade green) NYC E units - a pair of E8 A units and a matching E7 B unit made up the experimental paint scheme trio:
I would second a set of 1948 20th Century cars. While there were some changes to the cars after delivery such as numbers being added to the names this would be a great looking set behind the Jade E8s.
@Catonsville Central Railway posted:The 20th Century as Lionel is producing it would only be prototypical for 1938-1940, and the EMD E8 wasn't introduced until 1949. Plus the experimental Jade green paint scheme was only used on an E8 A-B-A set between 1960-61, so definitely not prototypical to run with the '38 century cars. A prototypical consist would include a hodge podge of late 50's, early 60's NYC passenger equipment (Lionel has made some over the past few years) or else a freight consist matched to the era.
At the end of the day, though, its your layout and you can do whatever you like! I'm sure they will be a beautiful set.
What Woody says. By 1961 there were almost no passenger trains made up of matching cars. The least plausible would be the 38-46 20th Century Cars. Mostly the later TT Gray streamliners and heavyweights, ribbed silver aluminum and stainless cars, with a few green head end cars.
Pete
"Plus the experimental Jade green paint scheme was only used on an E8 A-B-A set between 1960-61,"
So far as I know, there was not a Century Green E8B; there was, however, a Century Green E7B, that sometimes ran with the E8's.
I have the MTH E8's in the green. Let me just say wow, they are awesome. Struck me as a bit odd that Lionel used the same road numbers as MTH. When I run them, I have run a mix set of NYC passenger cars, MTH and Lionel. I haven't thought about the running some of the Madison cars with this.
John
@jbmccormick posted:.....Struck me as a bit odd that Lionel used the same road numbers as MTH. .......
There was only one ABA set painted Century Green: E8A #4053/E7B #4107/E8A #4083, It would not make since to put any other numbers on these engines.
@Catonsville Central Railway posted:The 20th Century as Lionel is producing it would only be prototypical for 1938-1940, and the EMD E8 wasn't introduced until 1949. Plus the experimental Jade green paint scheme was only used on an E8 A-B-A set between 1960-61, so definitely not prototypical to run with the '38 century cars. A prototypical consist would include a hodge podge of late 50's, early 60's NYC passenger equipment (Lionel has made some over the past few years) or else a freight consist matched to the era.
At the end of the day, though, its your layout and you can do whatever you like! I'm sure they will be a beautiful set.
2nd. this, spot on….by the time the jade hit the scene, the Central proper was a very unhealthy entity. At that point, it was run what’s rolling. So as mentioned, a total hodgepodge of what’s available to go,…
Pat
Ron, thank you. I didn't realize these were unique. Learn something new every day.
John