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Hello. I think I've been able to rectify a problem I encountered over the weekend with 22-21351-2, the NS PRR Heritage unit from about a year and a half ago. At this point, trying to figure out what I did that caused the problem.

The loco was taken out of the box only recently - I moved to a place where I can set up a layout, though for the moment it's a dogbone on the carpet running from the main bedroom, along a hallway, with the other end in another bedroom. Running straight DC, from a Bridgewerks SR-15.

The loco had been working well - then, over the weekend, it would no longer run forward. Reverse was fine. From an initial power-up, in forward, the power/amps light on the power supply would light up, as would the speed lights, as the throttle was increased. No response - lights, sound - from the loco. If I started with the direction switch in reverse, normal operation. EDIT: Oh, I meant to say, if I turned loco around on the tracks, same result - if direction switch was in reverse (for forward move with loco turned), no movement. Reverse fine.

If I stopped a reverse move and switched direction to forward - the number boards and cab lights came on. But no movement, and no ditch lights. After about 15 or 20 seconds, the sounds would quit - not the shutdown sequence, just an abrupt stop. And the amps lights would be on the power supply. Normally, the only time the amps lights come on is when trying to start a heavy train - and then only one of them. (No passenger cars with lights.)

One aside - once or twice, out of 15 or 20 tries, the loco did go forward, but would abruptly stop and shut down after 15 or 30 seconds.

Today - I thought, well, I'll dig out an AC transformer and try the reset to factory defaults sequence. But first, I tried running the loco. Same results as in DC. Plus, it popped the reset on the GW-180 brick. Eventually got it powered up in neutral and hit the reset sequence - one horn, five bells. Et voila. Now works in forward and reverse. Switched back to the Bridgewerks, and loco works in both directions. EDIT 2: I didn't get the two horn blasts.

Could I have somehow locked the loco into reverse while stopping the train, just before the problem started? Some combination of sliding the power off and throwing the direction switch?

Thanks,

David

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I've had a couple of MTH diesels short when moving in one direction or another.

On occasion, when they assemble the units, they put the hot and common wires too close together and they touch. They work fine initially (which is why they pass factory QC) and act up later. You have to remove the truck (tedious but not hard) and locate the lugs, loosen them and re position them, then tighten them back up. The last one I did for a club member, I put on a bit of shrink tubing to better insulate things.

I have two that I need to investigate as they exhibited behavior similar to yours. Because I was preparing to retire and relocate, they've been sitting in their boxes.

Hi you might try putting a volt ohm meter on ohms across the ground or outer rail wheel bottom of the engine and hook the other end usually RED wire to center roller , lay engine on it' side  for continuity check then if you see low 1 ohm or even or less  rotate either truck left and right and see if short clears then you will know which truck red wire or connection is shorting out against metal truck  !  then if you find that reposition wire as needed to fix problem!

Alan

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Alan

Wow I’m trying to figure why my 20-21351 NS Pennsylvania stopped too. Ran great for the first 10 minutes, via conventional and that was it after a shut down. Quick research was pointing in the Dcc dcs switch fault, but that’s not the case.  I’m going to try ohm test. I’ll post with what I find. Thanks Alan!!

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