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Problem solved (this one anyhow) - thanks to forum member Jim Gress taking the time to measure the length of the drawbar on his new Reading RR 4-8-4 MTH Imperial Northern.  His drawbar was 1/4 inch shorter than the one on my locomotive.  "Technically" the shorter one is listed as 45mm (center of drawbar hole to hole).  The length of the one on my locomotive was 55mm.  2 3/4 inches end to end.   I measured the bar on my small loco from an RTR set and it was the shorter 45mm drawbar.  I installed the shorter one on the Northern and it now can handle O-31 curves without derailing. I did not think shorter would be the answer, but it was.  Again thanks to all for your collective advice which pointed me in the right direction.   I plan to make MTH aware of this snafu.  

 

 

Purchased a new Reading RR 4-8-4 MTH Imperial Northern locomotive on 11/6 from my LHS.  (30-1565-1)  It is designated to operate on O-31 curves, but seems to be having a problem negotiating mine.  All my other engines run fine on this layout, which currently is only 4x8.  It seems to be related to the rear truck on the engine, but everything appears normal, but there may be other things to look for.  Any thoughts or suggestions?  Anyone operating this engine have any problems with derailments on O-31 curves?  LHS has a call in to MTH but I have not received any word on a solution or action to take.  I have also posted on the MTH Facebook page and MTH rep there says he has passed on my problem to appropriate people.  No answer there yet, either.   If I can solve this myself that is probably the easiest thing to do, so I am just looking for advice on what I should look for or attempt to do.   You can check out the two videos below - #1 engine/tender only, #2 with a consist.    Thanks.

 

 

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Sometimes, it's the tender that throws the engine off its game. One locomotive I have is the one that taught me this. It is a scale Lionel Dreyfus Hudson. It kept derailng on curves, but none as small a radius as what you have mentioned. The trucks had very, very little "play" often bumping into the inside of the tender's shrouding on anything that even suggested a radius narrower than 0-54. It was the restricted tender trucks that seemed to actually lift the locomotive off its track and force it outward or inward on curves.

 

A second such engine I bought - a later edition - did not do that, as its tender trucks have far more play in the radius of their movement inside the shrouding as the train negotiated curves.

 

Here they are, all chummy, on the local and express lines, coming into station.

 

I hope I made myself clear because I would like to be helpful.

Frank M. of LR

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Can you get your eyes down to track level and watch this loco closely as it runs through the curves? Sometimes the drawbar on the loco is bent in such a way as to hang up on the trailing truck, or something else as it moves into and out of a curve. If you can look at it from a side view, you might see what is happening.

 

Make sure the tether is flexible and not fouling the drawbar either.

Gentlemen thank you for you thoughts and suggestions.   I will do some more sleuthing tomorrow.  My wife made me go shopping for the past 6 hours and I am beat!  Did get to see some trains running at a local garden store open house.  My LHS was there so wanted to give them a little support.  

I see another post from a new Northern purchaser so I am going to ask him if he would measure the length of his drawbar.  Mine just may be too short.   This loco has the wireless tether - but physically it does not fit my conception of wireless since there are Molex connectors on it. 

@Barry - only one drawbar hole. That I remember.  (loco is back in the box)
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