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I bought a Weaver Alco C-630 loco with the knowledge it was not working. I got it at a price that even if I had to put a new DCRU in it still a bargain.  When I opened it up I found 3 QSI boards and a 9V battery. This is the first time I have 'worked' on a loco with QSI boards that have a 9V battery.

So.....my question is can I use a good grade rechargeable 9v to test the loco?? ALSO....If it works can I use a BCR in place of the battery?? Thanks for your time!!

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3 boards means it is a QSI OEM sound system. It should have a speaker in the fuel tank. Like a Proto-Sound 1 system, QSI OEM requires a 9v battery for proper function. The best way to test it is to charge up an 8.4 volt rechargeable NiCad and plug it in. The system has a charging circuit designed for NiCad batteries. You can use a 9v alkaline cell for short-term testing, but alkaline cells are not designed to be recharged and they should not be used with a charging circuit for very long. 

 

QSI OEM must be used with an 8.4v NiCad rechargeable. Some cheap "9 volt" rechargeables only have six internal cells and only put out 7.2 volts. The battery must be an 8.4 volt model with seven 1.2v cells internally. The QSI OEM charging circuit does NOT put out enough current to charge a BCR or a NiMH battery - you can only use NiCads in that particular system. Trying to run it with a BCR installed can blow the charging circuit. 

 

A QSI OEM system is a predecessor to Proto-Sound 1. It is easily identified by the three-board stack; a Proto-1 system only has two boards in the stack. 

G:
 
Really? Is there any way to tell which boards have the improved charge circuit? The late Art Boynton, who was the QSI factory service guy (dab The Scaled Tin Rail) told me many times that all of the three-board systems had low-amp charging systems. I fried one myself, by putting a BCR in a 3rd Rail Cab Forward, before I got to know Art. 
 
If there's some way to identify QSI 3-board systems that put out enough amps to charge a BCR, I'd love to know about it. People are constantly asking me for help with those things. 
 
Thanks
SWH
 
Originally Posted by GGG:

I agree with above, except QSI continued to produce 3 boards sets for OM other than MTH and the newer versions had a beefer charge circuit so it will handle BCR.  G

 

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That's the first I've heard of any upgrades to the charging circuit. Art Boynton did upgrades for the undersized main power diodes; he did one for our museum a couple of years ago. Art told me several times that the charging circuit could not be upgraded. If they did upgrade the charging circuit, it's kind of odd that Art wouldn't have known about it, since he was their factory service rep. The QSI website used to refer all 0 gauge service to him at The Scaled Tin Rail. 

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