Removing tmcc from a beep

I have a couple of factory boards. I will post a picture later.

Jeff,

Thanks your your efforts in advance.

It looks like this.

Any electronic e unit would work but the Beep board would give you directional lighting and I am pretty sure there is a way to lock it in one direction. Two features not usually provided an most electronic E units.

Pete

Pete, yes and yes.  It does have directional lighting and a reverse-lockout switch.

Careful! the OEM beep boards I had were a LOT smaller than what the gunrunner posts and worse yet, they are SENSITIVE! You can easily blow them out with static electricity if you are not careful. IMHO, leave in the TMCC and see if someone can swap the chassis with you.

This is the board I remember. I think Walter suggested a way to lock direction but these did not come with a switch. The board GRJ posted is from the later Beeps. Either would work though.

Pete

Yep, mine is a later BEEP with the harness do double-head them.  The board is considerably more robust than the earlier BEEP boards.

Thanks to all who answered. I'm am ordering a electronic e unit and putting in it. Will be placing the tmcc board in a 0-8-0 that I run offten. The beeps seem popular and seem to run good for most. I found the chassis is to low to the track and grounds out on my frogs. So I will run it in conventional every now and then and leave the tmcc on a bigger swither. Thanks.

Josh, you say it grounds out. Are you seeing sparks? Its common for them to lose contact and stall on the switches. I overcame that issue by tethering it to a transfer caboose with dual pickup rollers. Now it goes over every switch including double slips without hesitation.

Pete

Pete,

The bottoms of the fuel tanks hit the frog and when you have 18v on the track for tmcc it blows 7.5 fuses instantly. So yes I have thought about getting another one to dubble head them and have a longer power pic up, and that's still open but will be removing the tmcc.

I think one of the issues with the BEEP is some switch frogs stick up just slightly, and the collectors on the BEEP chassis have very little travel before the bottom out.  I find the special issue is some uncoupling tracks, the magnet assembly sticks up just enough to bounce the collector roller and short it to the frame.  I've seen the BEEP do a little hop when crossing those.

Josh Morse posted:

Pete,

The bottoms of the fuel tanks hit the frog and when you have 18v on the track for tmcc it blows 7.5 fuses instantly. So yes I have thought about getting another one to dubble head them and have a longer power pic up, and that's still open but will be removing the tmcc.

Fuel tanks?  Are you talking about the gearbox, that's the only thing I can see that might hit the hot rail.

Yes sorry I ment under the fuel tanks. The gear boxs do hit.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Careful! the OEM beep boards I had were a LOT smaller than what the gunrunner posts and worse yet, they are SENSITIVE! You can easily blow them out with static electricity if you are not careful. IMHO, leave in the TMCC and see if someone can swap the chassis with you

Does anyone have a closer picture or a schematic that shows what wires on this board goes where? My board is labeled with wires, but not what the wires are meant for. Motor, incoming power, lighting, etc?

The BEEP has had several different style boards in it's lifetime, the previous board that I posted a picture of was right out of a BEEP chassis.  I've also seen the board above in the later BEEP units.