replacing a 226E collector plate

File down one side of tabs at an angle so they will slip more easily into the frame as you spread it and press it into place.

Sounds like that can work  I'll try it

I couldn't get that to work. Just can't get the frame to spread wide enough. Don't what else to do. I need help

Have you tried to pull the wheels a little to make room for the frame to spread? That motor unit is a pretty tight fit.

No but  I think the wheels leave space between the frame and their inner side

Here is another option. Can you drill out the peened end of the highlighted pin that holds the side plates together? Looks like you would not have to pull any wheels. Then you have the ability to spread the frame easily to allow your replacement. Than drill and tap the pin and use a screw to reattach.

No I can't drill out the frame pin. Don't know whats next. I can't proceed with finishing this rest

You have to pull the wheels, there is no other way. Unless you drill out the pins or punch them out by accident when you use the frame spreader.

as grandpa said don’t do the job if you don’t have the tools.

Uncle Bob would say “I started out with a broken item so it’s all ready junk. if I break it more it’s just more I have to fix.

Cousin Pete would say if you can’t fix it. sell it to someone who can or thinks they can.

Brother Tim would say if your not willing to take drastic measures and head advice from others than get out of the way and get someone who can.

and the best advice is sometimes it’s best to pay a professional before you really bust it up.

best of luck to you and your endeavors

True true. However I've replaced a collector plate with same issue on a 675 and got the frame spread enough to replace the plate  So I assumed I could do the same with the 226E

@Bob is cool! posted:

True true. However I've replaced a collector plate with same issue on a 675 and got the frame spread enough to replace the plate  So I assumed I could do the same with the 226E

well if you back the wheels out just enough than yes its possible. coo-dos to you if you make it ! however removing the wheels makes life a lot easier on a tough job like this. Also if you still can't get it open enough than springing open the frame will be easier to manage without the wheels and gears. if your not per-paired to handle wheel work than maybe you shouldn't take on the job. Its back to that old risk reward.       

I use the frame spreader by starting close to the outer tab ,spreading the frame,and popping it out ,then moving to the middle tab,doing the same thing ,then finally moving to the last one.It can be a bit tedious and sometimes you have to file the tabs a little to fit.Practice will make it easier each time.One of my least favorite things when doing repairs.

               John K

Thanks for the suggestion. The collector plate for the 226 E has only 2 tabs/side  The spreader itself has the tabs to slide down into the frame. But they're too short. When cranking it tight ,they lift up and pop out. the spreader needs to be resigned a bit. Plus the tabs bent somewhat.

Jon G.’s got the right answer here,…..no need to go nuts, ….slope file one set of tabs ever so slightly to aid in starting. I use an old pair of reverse snap ring pliers to bow the frame halves just enough to slip the tab into the slot. There’s just enough “springiness” in the frame halves not to distort the halves……an extra pair of hands is helpful, but not necessary,…..I lock the frame in a flat jawed vice for stability…..trying to do this job on a bench is just too fidgety……No need to loosen wheels, rivets, etc,…

Pat

I'm desperate. I'll try that