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Originally Posted by Richard E:
Originally Posted by Wurlitzer:

Phooey!  I was hoping for the early model!

From the the photo, it looks like units built from 1945 to 1951

I think the GE 44 tonner was the most requested locomotive. I wonder how hard it will be to upgrade to TMCC.

That's what I am interested in, a TMCC controled unit in the Southern black and white colors. If the price is right I will buy the unit and add TMCC myself.

Last edited by patharm

Pennsy had a bunch.   They bought them to replace A5 0-4-0s around the Philly and Baltimore industrial areas.    They found out there could not do nearly the job the little steamers could.   They could not handle as many cars at one time.

 

I have a one of the ones imported by Sunset 3rd Rail in brass a few years back, maybe 5 or more.   It is really well built and runs great and as opposed to the prototype will pull lots of cars if I want.   I think it is some what generic based on a later phase but is full scale size.   

Originally Posted by prr4935:

Has anyone tried interfacing TMCC to the new WBB TrueBlast Plus?

There is no direct way to interface TMCC to that board.  You'd have to have an interface that recognizes the TMCC serial commands and converts them to +/- offsets on the AC feed line.

 

ERR has such a product in the wings, I have a couple of the beta versions.  It receives the serial data from the TMCC receiver and allows you to power a conventional whistle/bell card.  I'm not sure when it'll actually make the website, but I've been told they are in process.

 

The board also has LED outputs, the stock firmware offers flashing ditch lights and a cab light output that you can vary the intensity of.  It's intended that the software will be released with a GNU open source license so individuals can modify the software for their own unique requirements.

 

TMCC Conventional whistle-bell interface

 

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Originally Posted by M. Mitchell Marmel:
Originally Posted by Norm:

WBB has unveiled a "right sized" prototype 1:48 scale 44-tonner.  It measures 9"by 3.5".  It will be in 4 roads: PRR, SF, Southern, and D&RG.

 

Norm

URL?  Judging by the pic, it'll look good with a trolley pole on top!  <3

 

Mitch

 

whose motto is, "if it rolls, put a trolley pole on it!"

 

GEDC0372

Or a pantograph

 

Niagara Junction Locomotives were similar to a 44 tonner .

 

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Originally Posted by hah3:

When we were at York train meet I had talked with them about the 44 toner. As John said these are truck mounted motors thy had keep in mind that a lot of them wood have ERR put in them. 

The ad copy says that the motors have flywheels. Never saw truck mounted motors with flywheels. I'm betting that there is some discrepancy here, but only time will tell.

 

I ordered mine from Mr Muffin some time ago, so I hope to get one of the first ones.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Well, from the horse's mouth at York, they said the motors were in the trucks.  Of course, they could be confused...

 

Or the copywriters could have just copied the phrase "with flywheels" from some older copy, or the whole system could be different that what any of us are thinking.

 

Anyone know when we will see the locos in the flesh?

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I have the Southern Railway on order (the SOU had a few).

 

I, and we, can be 99.9% certain that we will like what comes out of the scale 44T box.

 

Mine is intended for ERR upgrades; time will tell.

 

On that subject (and see above), if ERR had a board that would blow an existing whistle,

and -feed an existing sound system, somehow - my, that would be nice. I'm not

really talking about the old UCUB/DD boards, but rather something that "simply" (hah)

makes them blow/chuff/ramp up/down as if they were still getting variable track power, but not actually using them for motor power any longer...

 

Easy, right? Just spitballing. Still, just activating an existing whistle would be a giant leap.

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It will be interesting. A comparison to the RY model upgrade.
Noted points:
(1.) Electro-couplers are long and don't fit well.  I fabricated a short coupler from articulated, (two piece couplers), to fit the RY model.  Scale electro-couplers might be a better idea. IMO.

(2.) Limited space.  The two hood areas most likely are dedicated to the two drive motors. Electronics board would have to fit in the fuel tank area, (best fit), or the cab, I didn't want that.

Wire left side of picture is the TMCC antenna.  I had threaded it through the frame but found it worked best, coiled, on one of the walkways.  

(3.) I use a small Atlas speaker, that was used in the SW models, installed one nose of the 44T. The ERR sound board was made fit in one hood area with minimal clearance between the cab and motor.

ERR sound board installed bottom of picture.  I had to remove (2) capacitors from the board and remote wire them in the other nose of the model.

Capacitors installed remote from the sound board.

(4.) Connection wiring.  Carefully placed to fit, extremely limited for space.
(5.) TMCC antenna was, and still is, an issue with the Brass model.  Most likely applied to the top inside of one of the hood areas, WBB is a plastic model.
(6.) Great model hobby project, It went on for days.  I'm not sure if the upgrade vendors would spend the time it took to complete the project for the few dollars they would make. IMO.   There were upgrades done to the RY model by TAS. I don't believe any were done with sound or couplers.   One assumes the MTH model is command control, with all the bells and whistles.  IMO, conventional would be disappointing.
(7.)  The small ERR board that I used, at the time, worked well, with limited use, but had no heat sinks, and eventually failed, requiring the replacement of board parts, since the board was no longer available.  Surprisingly with some patients I did manage to get it to operate again. 
(8.)  Best wishes to all, Properly done, it could be a very nice addition to any layout.

(9.)  RY model testing switches.

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Originally Posted by DaveJfr0:

<snip>Not fun, but now that I'm 2R, I will wait for the MTH 2015 catalog to see what they have to say about theirs.  Supposedly PS3 will be inside (and hopefully sound).<snip>

Dave, is that confirmed?  MTH has been running around this idea for some time, but it still hasn't appeared in a catalog.  I hope they do build one...I'd order one of their's too.

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