In another post it was discussed about how the Des Plaines Hobbies container well cars don't cotton to r20 curves without some surgery. That made me hesitate to buy any as I only run r20 curves on my layout and can't (won't) change it.
I attempted to make a crude (very crude) mock up of the car with scrap wood.
My goal was to see if the DEP car could
1. negotiate r20 curves and
2. Just how long could a car be and still turn an r20 even if it looked silly doing it.
The first car I made duplicated the info provided on the distance between truck centers which was 10 5/8 inches. I added the 48' "well" portion and sure enough the highrail truck wheels hit the well. So I moved the trucks out 1/4 inch on each end to clear the wells. Now the spacing was 11 1/8" center to center on the trucks. The car ran fine around r20 curves:
The problem was when I moved the trucks further out the coupler shank became too long when compared to the SHS flatcar I was basing my measurements on. So I made a longer car base and added a less thick "well" portion that would now ride 3/16" above the rails:
This car was also able to easily run an r20 curve and the coupler matched the SHS flatcar. Here's the data I measured on this car:
So this mock-up now represents a 70' car with the truck centers 1" from either end of the car. I know that low hanging steps/stirrups and other junk will have to be accounted for. More than likely body mounted highrail couplers would be a good solution and would allow trucks to swing more freely on tight curves. The car overhang on the inside of a curve is pretty drastic and one would have to be mindful of car sideswipes on adjoining tracks. But this little exercise gives me hope that American Flyer/S gauge highrail manufacturers might be able to provide l-o-n-g-e-r cars for us of a more modern flavor with some dimensional tinkering.
The trucks easily clear the 48 foot wells on my mock-up so perhaps the manufacturers might consider such an adjustment:
I'll keep poking around with this until I find the maximum length car that can negotiate r20 curves. I've decided to now purchase one of the DEP cars and "scrub up" for surgery.
Mark
PS I just realized I have to cut off a portion of the lower container to give the illusion that it is "nested" in the well.
I have now done just that with the result that the car with 2 containers now stands 20 feet (3 3/4")above the railhead.