Sad, Sad - Trains Wasting Away

great video !

Great video but to be honest a lot of times it's because of the museums we do have they just can't fit or commit to anymore than what they have because the cost to restore/moving ti to where they are. Some it's because what all would need to be done and sometimes to remove items such as asbestos and other things. They should as much as I hate to say unless they plan to somehow reuse them send them to be scrapped. There is places here in the U.S. that's takes a lot of these but they can hold just so many and try to resell them to the public as personal train cars for what ever use they want ( ie train rooms etc)  

Bottom line thou it is a shame. 

The NYO&W Museum in Rosco, NY has no noteworthy NYO&W equipment. In my opinion, the F Unit should be in their display.

Amazing footage.  I agree it is sad to see this equipment just wasting away....I would like to these in a museum, but I do understand the logistic/cost of such endeavors.  Thanks for posting the video.

I enjoyed the video - thanks for sharing. those F units have been sitting there quite some time. Just to move them again is going to take an act of Congress.

I don't think they will be going anywhere soon.

Bobby Ogage posted:

The NYO&W Museum in Rosco, NY has no noteworthy NYO&W equipment. In my opinion, the F Unit should be in their display.

To paraphrase the Beatles: "All you need is cash."

And of course a well developed plan for removal, assuming the title holder is willing to sell.  It can take years of negotiations and planning to purchase and move hulks like these and I suspect they would have to be trucked out.

The F-unit looks to be either late model F7 or is an F9.  The NYO&W only had FT's and F3's.  Unless one was seriously rebuilt over the years,  I doubt it it's an original NYO&W locomotive.

Rusty

I've been to a few museums in my area. They all seem to have plenty of derelict equipment already. We cannot save everything.

The one F unit and the RDC seem to be in pretty decent shape. It's sadder to see an abandonment when the item is still in good shape, and recoverable condition.

breezinup posted:

The one F unit and the RDC seem to be in pretty decent shape. It's sadder to see an abandonment when the item is still in good shape, and recoverable condition.

We've inquired about purchasing equipment like these pieces and the replies are often "out of this world" as to cost to purchase.   Some of the "could run" pieces probably could after an injection of cash and time way beyond  reasonable and realistic.  Many time the museum volunteers have no clue and in their eyes all of their collection will be complete and restored to operation ... "some day".

Rather than take a realistic approach and pick one or two major pieces with historical value to restore, they would rather continue to collect "red fleet work cars" and "junk" to no end.

Now we don't waste the time to approach these pieces when they do surface.

I thought for sure the last train was going to turn into Optimus Prime.

That equipment is in better condition now than what the Penn Central ran in the late sixties! This is coming from a PC fan!

Rich

C W Burfle posted:

I've been to a few museums in my area. They all seem to have plenty of derelict equipment already. We cannot save everything.

Sad but very true. 

Kerrigan posted:

We've inquired about purchasing equipment like these pieces and the replies are often "out of this world" as to cost to purchase.   Some of the "could run" pieces probably could after an injection of cash and time way beyond  reasonable and realistic.  Many time the museum volunteers have no clue and in their eyes all of their collection will be complete and restored to operation ... "some day".

Rather than take a realistic approach and pick one or two major pieces with historical value to restore, they would rather continue to collect "red fleet work cars" and "junk" to no end.

Now we don't waste the time to approach these pieces when they do surface.

Yep. museums are so focused on the gathering of rolling stock, but they never focus on doing something with it when they get it.

Just like all the museum ships you see; so much fanfare when they arrive, only to be followed by a slow decline that the volunteers have no hope of ever doing anything about it. Just look at this sad example to see what I mean...

Just like all the museum ships you see; so much fanfare when they arrive, only to be followed by a slow decline that the volunteers have no hope of ever doing anything about it. Just look at this sad example to see what I mean...

Sometimes things work out: Check out the USS Slater. It is the last Destroyer Escort afloat in the country

And here is another interesting museum piece: The John J Harvey  (NYC Fire boat) was rescued from the scrappers by a couple of people who wanted to preserve it. It was later pressed into service on 9-11.

Looks like it is time to call the scrap dealer. They Look nice but everything cannot be saved 

It takes big bucks, organization and hard work to restore neglected relics. Many groups have acquired old railroad equipment with the hope of restoring it, but they often run out of resources.

Depressing. It is just a matter of time until some hop-head lights everything up.

Great video and thanks for posting - looks those units had a great life before being parked. My bet is one day they will just be gone from the rails - one or two look really nice.

Get them in an enclosed space with climate control so they can be restored.

Andrew

It would be interesting to know who owns the tracks and the equipment. The tracks appear to have had some use, While most of the equipment looks to be one step from the scrap yard, other pieces vary from possibly operational (Budd car) to restorable (F units.) My guess is a failed or proposed museum.

Rusty Traque posted:

Bobby Ogage posted:

The NYO&W Museum in Rosco, NY has no noteworthy NYO&W equipment. In my opinion, the F Unit should be in their display.

To paraphrase the Beatles: "All you need is cash."

And of course a well developed place for removal, assuming the title holder is willing to sell.  It can take years of negotiations and planning to purchase and move hulks like these and I suspect they would have to be trucked out.

The F-unit looks to be either late model F7 or is an F9.  The NYO&W only had FT's and F3's.  Unless one was seriously rebuilt over the years,  I doubt it it's an original NYO&W locomotive.

Rusty

Correct! It is not an original NYO&W unit, just painted up as one. I forgot the original road, but I believe it's an F7.

Thanks for sharing . Hope something can be saved but realize not ever thing can be.

The NYO&W GE-44 ton is the one, I believe, that is in negotiations to be purchased, moved and  restored by the O&W historical Society.