Make it and I will be a buyer!!!

Alan

Nay! 

It was never a real locomotive. Pure fantasy. 

Looks like a nice door stop to me. No way would I waste money on one of those.

It's purely an engineering concept at this point. I like to think of it as a PRR T1 Duplex with modern tech. I'm intrigued, but I don't think I'd want to drop over 2K on a model without a working prototype.

Entirely too silly.......but if you're going to do this you might as well also cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring.......

I would be in for one!

Greg

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I'd love one, but I'm sure it would be far out of my price range.

As big fan of Chapelon, Porta and all his disciples, Wardale in particular, i would love to have this locomotive.  Alas I would never be able to afford one new.  Lately I have been concentrating on updating some of my older equipment and scooping up some good looking ps1 engines o be updated later.  

As to paint scheme I think it would be wide open.  Given the timeframe the C&O 614 trials were done in, I am thinking of the current class ones along with Conrail, (maybe bnsf if you could make it run on powder river basin coal).  If you just want to go with whatever strikes you than I would say Erie, P&WV, or Milwaukee would all look good.  I could also see a WM fireball scheme on the flanks.  

This locomotive would have stood a half decent chance at production if oil prices had remained sky-high.  In the current market it would be doubtful at best.  When you factor in the stress load on the track from big drivers its almost a guaranteed no-go for the real thing, but as for a model I still think it would be pretty cool. Interestingly enough it would be a loco that you could easily change to run off liquefied natural gas by hooking up a tank car for a tender, or switch back to coal, simply based on lowest dollar fuel availability.

No

Too big.  Too much money.  Not an interesting locomotive.

It looks like there are at least 2 people who would buy it.  If you add yourself and the other anonymous, influential person, you got 4.   I would say start production.

Yes - the final decision would be based on the price. I don't expect it to be cheap, but.

Now, if I may comment upon the above statement, and others like it:

"Nay! 

It was never a real locomotive. Pure fantasy." 

That is factually incorrect - it was never built, but it was designed by people who were qualified to do so and was in no way "fantasy". But, as it never had a Warbonnet paint scheme or some such thing, I guess there's no reason to build it, huh?

My photo says it all

D500 posted:

Yes - the final decision would be based on the price. I don't expect it to be cheap, but.

Now, if I may comment upon the above statement, and others like it:

"Nay! 

It was never a real locomotive. Pure fantasy." 

That is factually incorrect - it was never built, but it was designed by people who were qualified to do so and was in no way "fantasy". But, as it never had a Warbonnet paint scheme or some such thing, I guess there's no reason to build it, huh?

Add in it is also a 34+ year old concept.

Rusty

I got to look over  an Audi concept piloted car last week, it was truly the future now.

I like this engine for the same reasons, I would buy it.

Fred

Nyet

Want a Steam Turbine Electric that hasn't been done in O Scale???

As a Sunset brass thing it would require about 120 reservations and the price would be about $1800.  Painted in the Demo paint, yeah, I'm interested.  When I was an undergraduate in mech engineering in the '70s my senior project was to study the possibilities of a nuclear powered version of this type of proposal.

Yea, but probably out of range of my wallet and too big for any layout I could build. 

Maybe, depending on price.  Especially, in brass, I know it will be a lot of bucks but depends on how much.  And, for me, 2 rail and in CSX paint.

Rick

For they with more money than brains.

Simon

and too big for any layout I could build.

Really ?it's only a 4-4+4-2. IF you run a 4-8-4 you can run this.

Simon Winter posted:

For they with more money than brains.

Simon

 

Or maybe they used their brains to get the money in the first place.

Don't want to insult anyone here but it's the ugliest thing I have ever seen not even it's mother would like it.

But that's just strictly my opinion and I am only talking about a model not a person so please don't take offence.

Roo.

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

and too big for any layout I could build.

Really ?it's only a 4-4+4-2. IF you run a 4-8-4 you can run this.

Technically, the Ace 3000 would've still have been a 4-8-2.  The second and third drivers were to be inside connected, which would keep the two engine sets in sync.  The arrangement was supposed to reduce pounding.

Rusty

Highly interested.

Simon Winter posted:

For they with more money than brains.

Simon

 

I have both the brains and the money, so I am in.  Interesting design and would look good on my layout.  Union Pacific of course. 

rex desilets posted:

No

Ditto!

I rather have an E2C PRR electric. Or an MTH old rivets.  

"SERIOUSLY! How many of you ARE interested in an O Scale/O Gauge ACE 3000!"

SERIOUSLY, I'm not.

NO--as simple as that.

I normally do not respond with a negative to topics asking "who will buy a (add what you want)".  But since you asked: nay.

david1 posted:

Nay! 

It was never a real locomotive. Pure fantasy. 

Yep, pure fantasy.

Even if I modeled standard gauge, it'd be a huge NOPE for me.

i was one of those that suggested it

so get it out there

still waiting on a tier 4 SD70ACe

It looks like a brute and I like that. What really makes it such a great eye catcher is the cross  between steam and diesel.

That said my big but is before I would ever shell out six figures for a toy it better have the pull to match the look.  I'm talking a hefty motor in  the prime and two in the tender.

If it will be lithographed tin and handle O-27 curves like my 2020 turbine I might be interested.   

Since you are asking who would be interested, I think it would be fair to also estimate the sale price, if it were produced. Based on the likely number of sold units of less than 200 pieces, and in view of the unique running gear and construction costs, I would estimate the model would sell for $700 or more. Still interested, paigetrain?

My guess would be that you need to add, at least, a "1" before the "700" estimate. After all, this is potentially a handmade brass item.

Although I'm not interested in the item, I hope to see it made. If the person the OP knows is not currently in the model train business, the project would be like SGL Reading project in the early 2000's.

Jim

jd-train posted:

My guess would be that you need to add, at least, a "1" before the "700" estimate. After all, this is potentially a handmade brass item.

Although I'm not interested in the item, I hope to see it made. If the person the OP knows is not currently in the model train business, the project would be like SGL Reading project in the early 2000's.

Jim

This project has exactly the same chance as any other.  It depends on the reservations.  Lobbying for something you want is a good thing if people are willing to contact Scott and reserve one as a result.  If Scott sees 20+ reservations (not necessarily individual persons)  then there is a reasonable chance it will be offered.  But if after 6 months to a year of offering if the number of reservations is still below some minimum it will still be cancelled.

But, it will be brass, and yes $1700 is a reasonable price and it will take probably 100 firm reservations to become a go.

Also,

As far as any sound system it must be realized this would never have sounded anything like a traditional steam locomotive, i.e., it would have no chuffing sound.  It would actually sound more like one of the UP turbines, albeit a LOT quieter.  Like a steam ship the exhaust steam from the traction pistons is then expanded through a turbogenerator and then to a condenser to be reused.  That is what the heat exchangers in the tender are for.

jd-train posted:

My guess would be that you need to add, at least, a "1" before the "700" estimate. After all, this is potentially a handmade brass item.

Although I'm not interested in the item, I hope to see it made. If the person the OP knows is not currently in the model train business, the project would be like SGL Reading project in the early 2000's.

Jim

Jim,

Your guess is right on regarding pricing. The person the OP knows IS in the model train business and is actively involved in representing an O scale importer at 2 rail shows and the TCA York shows as well as assisting with product selection.

On a different topic, some Reading 2 rail modelers have given me detailed information regarding the Reading 2-10-2 locomotives. We'll see where that goes but keep in mind that the minimum production run for brass steam is 120 pieces which is getting to be a very difficult number of sales to achieve.

Rheil,

I am definitely in for a 3R Reading 2-10-2, if Scott makes them! 

As I missed a couple of pre-order dates for some other items, I currently have nothing on order!

Man, I hope these get made.  Aside from Weaver/SGL Pacifics and some T-1's, there seems to be very little Reading scale steam previously made.

Jim