Should I sell off all my PS2 and DCS stuff?

I started with TMCC and went to DCS Proto2 after I found the speed display and the "ALL" command better and that permitted to run multiple trains per loop. With the intro of Legacy, that capability with the TR setting permits multiple Legacy trains to start simultaneously (you can not have an MU within that TR set).  Legacy speed steps permit greater grandularity of speed control at the speeds I run my trains (10 - 20 smph) giving me the capability of 3 speed steps per 1 smph. This makes syncing the speed of multiple trains a snap.  On my 10 plus loops I run 2 or 3 proto2 trains with a legacy train following the proto2 trains. Having both has permitted me to purchase any engine regardless of vendor and based solely on the basis of features.  I have even purchased two SMR engines with both having command control. One uses the Cruise Commander for TMCC control and the other uses Proto2 with each running on the same loop (speed step 11 equals 3 smp on those engines). I have even added a 3rd Rail 2900 class SF to the mix.  It is nice to purchase the engine you want without worring about the command system.

I have both systems, and if I could only pick one, it would be Legacy.  In spite of comments that are tossed around to the contrary, it does take more care to wire a layout for DCS than TMCC.  I know it's possible, but it's just harder.   In addition, I like the Legacy remote better.  The DCS speed control thumbwheel sucks IMO.  Added to that is when you are on a large layout with a number of people using DCS, it's pretty much impossible to use the thumbwheel at all!  OTOH, the bit Legacy knob is easy to use and much more responsive.

I like both systems for different reasons, and I'm thankful I don't have to choose just one.

Frankly, I'd take it a step further and sell of any of the TMCC motive power to go pure legacy. I hardly run anything from our TMCC fleet now as it just doesn't compare to the Legacy operational characteristic.

Just my opinion, but I think you are making a BIG MISTAKE!

I kinda' agree with you, but everyone has to make their choices.  While it might be a mistake for you or me, but it's an individual choice that each of us makes.

I have and use both DCS and Legacy, and find advantages and limitations to both.  I must say, though, that I still prefer the DCS remote over the Legacy remote, which I find too large.  My Legacy remote still gives me problems from time to time (display upside down and backwards), but one of these days I'll haul it over to Mike Reagan's place and have the doctor look at it.

I much prefer to have the capabilities of both systems available to me, and until such time as there is one universal control system that can handle all O gauge trains and their respective features (probably not in my lifetime), I'm perfectly happy staying with both.

I would keep both, it's cheaper if you decide later you want to have both again.  Does Legacy have record/playback and routing/scene selection without buying additional Lionel control boxes?   That alone makes keeping DCS worthwhile, besides they work together, it is not an either/or situation.   DCS will control Legacy engines just not Legacy specific features.   Plus you have the extra controller to use for guests.  I would definitely keep both systems. 

For me that is the best reason for keeping both systems. MTH is now making some fine looking steam engines that Lionel will likely never do. i suspect to opposite is true for Lionel.  Give me a decent sounding whistle, bell, and chuff with smooth running and I am happy. The rest makes little difference.

Pete

My Legacy remotes have done none of the stuff you see Allan, perhaps that's why I don't have such a negative opinion of them.   If the thumbwheel would actually do one click, one MPH change, I'd be happier with it.  As it is, it is very erratic.  Since this happens on two Rev. L TIU's and three remotes, I doubt it's a hardware issue.  Sometimes you can roll it up and it's pretty good.  At other times you roll it up (or down) and it'll pause, jump, or even go backwards in speed!

It was far worse at TrainStock on Saturday, and those guys just said they find that feature useless and to use the Quickset speed.  They also mentioned that Quickset doesn't always work if there are lots of activity on the layout.  Since these were guys that live and breath DCS, I suspect they know of what they speak of.

Yep, Legacy has recording and playback, no extra boxes required.

I don't believe I said anything negative about Legacy.  I did say I have a problem with the display, and I reported that right here way back when I first bought/set=up Legacy.  Have just been too lazy to take it in to Big Mike.

I also like the smaller and more convenient one-hand feel of the smaller DCS remote.  Strictly a personal preference and not a criticism.

I have both DCS and Legacy, and will be buying Legacy "Light" when it becomes available.  I played with it a bit a few weeks ago, and it's just what I need for my modest-level operation and operational needs.

 It really sounds like you have not fixed your thumbwheel. That's not normal. Mine does not do that. I installed some padding behind the thumbwheel that gives it a much better feel for people with heavy thumbs like mine.

Well, I'd believe that, but I have three remotes that all have the same affliction.  In addition, being told by the folks at NJ Hi-Railers that that was "normal operation" leads me to believe I can't expect more consistency.  I'd love for it to work like it was obviously designed, but it's hard to believe that it's the wheel on all those remotes.

The thumbwheel that came with my original/older DCS system was a bit problematic (I turned off the "Quickset Speed" function to take care of that), but the thumbwheel on the newer DCS system that I bought a few months ago has been performing just fine.

I have one brand new remote with a different style thumbwheel, finer serrations on the wheel.  However, it acts exactly the same as the other two older ones.

I'm thinking of buying a replacement thumbwheel encoder and installing a new one to see if it makes any difference.

You have it backwards.  The new thumbwheels have larger serrations on the thumbwheel.  You must be buying old stock.  The problem with erratic behavior with the thumbwheel is if you press down too hard when attempting to rotate it as that is the "enter" function.  The thumwheel spring needs to be a little stiffer so it doesn't press down so easily, I would agree.  Both of my DCS remotes, one new and one old, both move the engine in 1 SMPH increments.  On the other hand, my Cab 1 (TMCC) remote sometimes has to be spun to get the engine's attention and start to move.  I am wired to run both but have not been impressed with the TMCC action and having no screen with codes and answers in it makes me like the DCS remote better.  I am not in the market for Legacy.

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Dennis

Legacy is much better, sell your MTH. Fred

   I have 10 year old controller and a new 4 month old controller and they both work the same, that is, they work with no problems.

   I disabled the Quick Speed on both controllers as it seemed to act weirdly. I rather have direct speed control with the thumbwheel.

   The newer one has coarser indents.

I really think that it depends what feels natural to the operator as to whether or not Legacy or DCS is preferred. I have both and after using the CAB1 TMCC, then some DCS, and lots of Legacy I find the Legacy feels more comfortable to me. I was at a friend/fellow club member's house yesterday and after running 2 separate trains he changed the scenario and instructed me to combine both consists including running both RS3 TMCC units in an MU configuration. I was using his Legacy handheld and within just a few minutes I was set and running a single consist. I work with him and challenge him to use his Legacy more often and he is slowly getting there. For me it is easy but not everyone is the same. The only reason I even have a DCS is because of 3 MTH engines that I like to trigger the sound effects and play a little. It helps me to understand DCS better.