Southern Pacific E7's dressed for Daylight

Oh Me like!

Isn't THAT something...how well does it run? 

Please continue to show we "mere mortals" anything else you have on those shelves, please...

Thanks, Carey.

Mark in Oregon

Mark, bet you have never seen this E-7 and what it started out too be. Don

@scale rail posted:

Mark, bet you have never seen this E-7 and what it started out too be. Don

That's when it was an E2.  After being rebuilt into an E7, it was slightly shorter than a factory E7.

Rusty

Your sharp Rusty....

Thank you, thank you!  Stunning!  I too have some SP doorstops to share.  Afraid mine are weathered and not quite as striking.

I have two real doorstop SP Diesels - the CLW PA, and a brass Exacta E7.  My paint, and my snowplow.  both are double-powered with no U joints.  The sprockets are dying, so next step is Jay's sprockets or tooth belts.  Both were excellent runners two decades ago.

I am not the world's best painter, but have learned that if I let Scale Coat dry (after baking) for a week, I can lay perfect stripes with a "Pilot" fine line pen.  I can also do it with a ruling pen, but that has a way of getting messy if you make a mistake.  The "Pilot" stripes wipe off easily if you err.  A coat of whatever they now call "Future Floor Wax" will fix the pen lines forever.

Matching coaches:

I have three different styles of Daylight coaches.  First, and most accurate, are the Speer extrusions, which I cut anyway I want.  They are not 100% accurate, but I believe they are closest to accurate of any O Scale Daylight cars yet produced, in terms of corrugation styles and numbers.

Second is the Kasiner - to make Daylight coaches out of Kasiners requires some bondo and some imagination, since the corrugations go the wrong way.  And my floorboards are too thick, as evidenced by the stairwell.

Last is the Kasiner, next to a B-C Models (Ken Caswell) car.  The B-C was done by a Sacramento modeler using SP shop paint.  It is older enamel, and while it will last forever, these things do not like to be wrapped in tissue paper or bubble wrap.

Third rail came really close a few years ago - I could only fault small divergences in corrugations and the Hat trucks.  They are probably best if you just want a Daylight train.  I have seen the rather expensive Pecos River Brass versions, and am not impressed.  This, of course, is all just opinion.

As usual, your pictures are great and your "opinions" most welcome. 🙂

Mark in Oregon

I was just begging - on MTJ - for more Daylight photos.  I am stunned that nobody but Corey and me has any Daylight equipment.  I would even like to see a "still" of a scale 3-rail Daylight.  Where are you guys - out partying?

Begging?  I was very close to prostrate!

@bob2 posted:

I was just begging - on MTJ - for more Daylight photos.  I am stunned that nobody but Corey and me has any Daylight equipment.  I would even like to see a "still" of a scale 3-rail Daylight.  Where are you guys - out partying?

Begging?  I was very close to prostrate!

Daylight MTH Premier Alco PAs and Premier GS4. That helpful?

I have a set of PAs in Daylight by MTH in one gauge and the AFT GS4. Our grandson wanted me to get the Daylight GS4 in 2 rail also. I don't have the money to keep up with him! 

I'll be getting my first southern pacific in my fleet. GS4 vision when it arrives. love the pic's.

Thanks!  Yes, fun to see others' stuff.

@bob2 posted:

I was just begging - on MTJ - for more Daylight photos.  I am stunned that nobody but Corey and me has any Daylight equipment.  I would even like to see a "still" of a scale 3-rail Daylight.  Where are you guys - out partying?

Begging?  I was very close to prostrate!

Sorry, I have a ton of SP but did not want to unpack them.  MTH GS-4, MTH Alco PA-1 AA. Weaver E-8 AA, Williams PA-1 ABA, Atlas SD-35, Lionel SPSF SD-40-T2.  two Lionel SP Atlantics.  6 Williams SP 80' aluminum cars,  Two MTH 5 car Streamline sets couple of extra domes, RPO, 5 K-Line heavyweight cars. Everything, except the SD-35 and SD-40 and some freight cars, is in Daylight colors. One of the Atlantics is on my work bench so how bout a shot of that.  j

That works!  Thanks!  I did an article on how to build an A-3 Atlantic.  I may yet doan A-6 in Daylight colors.

Sorry you have to keep them packed away.  Difficult to truly enjoy them that way.

I love the pictures, but the only SP stuff I have are my two Scale Craft Mountains. But I guess one of those could be streamlined lol

Not exactly E7s, but here are some more colorful steamers:

@bob2 posted:

Not exactly E7s, but here are some more colorful steamers:

I may have told this story before; I did a paint job for a nice older widow who had something very similar to this on display in her living room: not in this color scheme, but it had that same (odd) boiler top. She said her late husband had built it. It was very impressive, and you could see how much it meant to her to have it there on her mantle...

Mark in Oregon

Mark - I am trying to discourage use of the "reply with quote" button.  

We have seen nests of repeated photos go on until there are ten copies of a series of photos.

Fair enough; and I totally get the "repeated post syndrome".

I used your photo in this case simply to illustrate the specific Mountain type that lady had on display...

Mark in Oregon

The cover is called a "skyline casing" - at the end, over half the SP Mountains had them, along with all the GS-class 2 and higher, and four Pacifics.  Exceedingly difficult to do correctly in O Scale.

Yours looks great; is that a scratch-built engine, as per your usual? Do tell... 

Mark in Oregon

That Skyline casing has to be tough, doesn't look like there is a straight line anywhere.

@bob2 posted:

Not exactly E7s, but here are some more colorful steamers:

Those are nice but I am partial to the Sunbeam. Wish someone would do it in O.

@ Texas Eagle 77- If I'm not mistaken Sunset Models/ 3rd Rail made a SS&W Sunbeam Pacific several years ago.

I have a copyright on those photos.  You may reproduce them with my permission anywhere but in a thread where I post them.  To keep the moderators happy, I grant retroactive permission for the two repeats above.  "Passengers will please refrain . . ."

Yes, the Skylines are multiple pieces of brass, hand-formed and joined with screws and solder.  Each boiler band requires a notch.  In both cases the underlying model is Lobaugh.

I have done three - the third is a 17/64 GS-2 with a copper boiler.  If I haven't posted it here yet, I will do so.

And you may be mistaken.  The Sunbeam was a shrouded P-6 with 80" Boxpok drivers and a true nose cone.  The Pacific Lines streamlined maybe four P-8s with 73" spoked drivers.  I think Weaver considered the Sunbeam, but that was toward the end of their imported model business.

I could be wrong - somebody may have a photo of an O Scale Sunbeam to share?

Bob

Sorry about using that photo. It sure is a good looking engine and as always, I look forward to seeing more of your incredible work.  🙂

Mark in Oregon

Wasn't directed at you.  See what I mean?  One photo has already been repeated twice.  Not a big deal here, but check out what they do on "Switcher Saturday".  Over, and over, and over again . . . It is a wonder that management does not disable that button.  It sucks up storage, for no apparent purpose, and makes it difficult to really enjoy the posts.

Sorry to be such a grump - goes with old age.  Here is my scratch GS-2 - copper boiler, silver-soldered with the 1100 degree stuff.  Won't do that again, but at least the boiler would survive a California wildfire.  Frame is machined out of a 1' x 1' brass bar, in Lobaugh fashion.  Tender trucks are nickel silver from my masters.  Cannot bear to paint them - next owner surely will.

By the way - just found these photos.  They were for a proposed article on how to make articulated car diaphragms - I will skip the details, but the colors leap out.  Just baked-on standard Scale Coat.

Speer extrusions - windows cut here.  Yeah, I don't do interiors.  Speer is the closest we have come in O Scale to the correct corrugations.  Opinion.

Beautiful work...👍 🙂

Mark in Oregon

Hello all ..Bob the GS2 .. center on the back wall at the hanger 17/64ths ? 

If so gang , photos do not do this engine justice ... this engine screams look at me ...beautifully done ... 

Cheers Carey 

Yes.  Thank you. It is not my best effort - I should have brought my AC-8.  Really nice to meet you - sorry we couldn't do a tour of the stuff at the house.  Hopefully next time.  If history is a guide, we will open up in the Spring.

Yes, the Sunbeam locos were originally P6 4-6-2's from the Pacific Lines. The Texas & New Orleans shops rebuilt and streamlined them for use on the Sunbeam / Hustler and were classed as P14's.

No one that I know of has produced them in O. Hallmark did them in HO in the 70's. 

Sunset did the Pacific lines ones like Bob2's used on the San Joaquin Daylight. 

My apologies for duplicating your photos Bob2.