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Originally Posted by Ron H:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Ron H:

Starting to weather the train crew.

How will you get them to sit in the cab?

I'm not sure yet. The old crew came out through the bottom. The new crew will go in that way, but in new cab pedestal seats perhaps.

You might want to rethink the "pedestal seats", as I thought the SP cab forwards had seat boxes.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Ron H:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Ron H:

Starting to weather the train crew.

How will you get them to sit in the cab?

I'm not sure yet. The old crew came out through the bottom. The new crew will go in that way, but in new cab pedestal seats perhaps.

You might want to rethink the "pedestal seats", as I thought the SP cab forwards had seat boxes.

I think you're right.

Here the firebox has been painted and some firebox mounts put in.

 

Piping removed from right side as the tubes are undersized and the bottom tube does not go where it is suppose to. Additionally the bottom tube, when installed will be lagged under the firebox. I believe I'll be able to unsolder and use the models tubing brackets.

 

 

painted firebx

rt side piping 1

piping 2

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RonH, for those who, like me, may not be familiar with the prototype, is there a resource you can include via photos of the prototype to judge your fidelity to the prototype?  Otherwise, your posts are just wires bent, etc.

 

For example, if you were modeling the N&W 611, here's a photo of running gear, etc.

 

 

PA excursion 1993 001

 

Looking forward to more updates.

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Last edited by Pingman

Hey Pingman,

My resource is the same used by Kohs and Key model imports for their cab forwards. They are: Robert J Church's, "Cab-forward" and George Harlan's, "Those amazing Cab Forwards".

 

If you want to see what I'm doing, go to Key model Imports and look at their cab forward model and their resource photos from the two publications I mentioned.

 

 It was  suggested I get these references when I had just began. So, I'm not just bending wire and adding stuff for looks. I'm trying with my big fumbly fingers to reproduce by measurement what I see and can measure from the references. I am probably not going to add every oil and airline on the prototype, but enough to look good to me and in photographs. At least, that is my goal.

 

Ron

 

 

Last edited by Ron H
Originally Posted by Ron H:

Painted and installing extra fire under firebox detail and side plates on firebox. Really begins to add to the compact massiveness of these engines. When I get the piping on it should look pretty good.

 

firebox 5

Ron,

 

That "fire" is way too low for an oil burning locomotive. The only rarely visible "fire" flashes was much higher just below the firebox side sheets, where the automatic air inlet dampers were located. Plus, during WWII, the SP added "submarine shields" on the lower sides of each side of the firebox air intakes, so that Japanese submarines off the coast of California would not see the locomotives on the Coast Route. In fact, SP 4449 still retains her "submarine shields" to this day.

 

Keep up the good work. 

Hot water you are right! Fortunately I had only tacked these.

The shields only extended about 6 inches at their widest and mine are about a foot and I have the fire about 6 to 8 inches too low. I had already realized I mounted the shields to low, but did not look close enough at the photos on the other. The drawings I have in the Cab-Forward book are small and I have to reference the photos from various shots.

 

Thanks for letting me know.

 

Ron

Those boxes and shelves beneath the firebox and cab?  I spent some time in Sacramento studying the real thing, making sketches, etc., and never did figure out what most of it was for.  Maybe some of it was keeping water out of the fire?

 

i probably won't win for the most cab forwards, but I have three MMs, one MC,  one AC-6, one Lobaugh AC-6SF, one Lobaugh AC-8, one scratch AC-8, and three more under construction of various types.  I have no imports, and no Lionels.

Ron H, for goodness sake, do not, under any circumstance, edit your thread title to alert folks that you have updated your thread--doing so would make it possible for those interested in your project to follow it.  My gosh, spending 30 seconds to edit the title of your thread would cripple the spontaneity of the work you are doing.

 

Thank you for keeping those of us who are interested in your project in the dark.  Well done.

Hotwater, it has 4 Nathan DV7  mechanicals, two for the valve gear and two for journal boxes. Additionally, it had the one external Hydrostatic lubricator. The book shows pictures of it in this location and it is correctly reproduced on the Williams, but without tubing. I'll be adding the Nathans with actuating arms to the links.

 

Ron

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