Starting to weather the train crew.
How will you get them to sit in the cab?
I'm not sure yet. The old crew came out through the bottom. The new crew will go in that way, but in new cab pedestal seats perhaps.
Starting to weather the train crew.
How will you get them to sit in the cab?
I'm not sure yet. The old crew came out through the bottom. The new crew will go in that way, but in new cab pedestal seats perhaps.
You might want to rethink the "pedestal seats", as I thought the SP cab forwards had seat boxes.
Starting to weather the train crew.
How will you get them to sit in the cab?
I'm not sure yet. The old crew came out through the bottom. The new crew will go in that way, but in new cab pedestal seats perhaps.
You might want to rethink the "pedestal seats", as I thought the SP cab forwards had seat boxes.
I think you're right.
Here the firebox has been painted and some firebox mounts put in.
Piping removed from right side as the tubes are undersized and the bottom tube does not go where it is suppose to. Additionally the bottom tube, when installed will be lagged under the firebox. I believe I'll be able to unsolder and use the models tubing brackets.
this one intriguing engine, will be keeping my eye out for one at York in a few weeks
RonH, for those who, like me, may not be familiar with the prototype, is there a resource you can include via photos of the prototype to judge your fidelity to the prototype? Otherwise, your posts are just wires bent, etc.
For example, if you were modeling the N&W 611, here's a photo of running gear, etc.
Looking forward to more updates.
Hey Pingman,
My resource is the same used by Kohs and Key model imports for their cab forwards. They are: Robert J Church's, "Cab-forward" and George Harlan's, "Those amazing Cab Forwards".
If you want to see what I'm doing, go to Key model Imports and look at their cab forward model and their resource photos from the two publications I mentioned.
It was suggested I get these references when I had just began. So, I'm not just bending wire and adding stuff for looks. I'm trying with my big fumbly fingers to reproduce by measurement what I see and can measure from the references. I am probably not going to add every oil and airline on the prototype, but enough to look good to me and in photographs. At least, that is my goal.
Ron
Painted and installing extra fire under firebox detail and side plates on firebox. Really begins to add to the compact massiveness of these engines. When I get the piping on it should look pretty good.
Ron,
That "fire" is way too low for an oil burning locomotive. The only rarely visible "fire" flashes was much higher just below the firebox side sheets, where the automatic air inlet dampers were located. Plus, during WWII, the SP added "submarine shields" on the lower sides of each side of the firebox air intakes, so that Japanese submarines off the coast of California would not see the locomotives on the Coast Route. In fact, SP 4449 still retains her "submarine shields" to this day.
Keep up the good work.
Hot water you are right! Fortunately I had only tacked these.
The shields only extended about 6 inches at their widest and mine are about a foot and I have the fire about 6 to 8 inches too low. I had already realized I mounted the shields to low, but did not look close enough at the photos on the other. The drawings I have in the Cab-Forward book are small and I have to reference the photos from various shots.
Thanks for letting me know.
Ron
You are definitely getting there, and the close-up photos in Bob Church's Cab Forward book should be a big help.
The above is a Williams Cab Forward i had worked on to look more presentable.
The above is a Williams Cab Forward i had worked on to look more presentable.
The above photos are of another Williams Cab forward I had added detail and some weathering.
Excellent detailing. There was a post here a while back where a guy super detailed a Williams scale Hudson and it also looked great. Clever way to get a great looking engine on a budget.
That Hudson looks superb!!! Thanks for the photos. Also thanks Dennis for the compliments. I have 5 Cab Forwards, 2 Williams, 2 Sunset (AC-7 (2-rail), AC-5) and a Lionel AC-12. I also have 2 AC-9's, Lionel and a Sunset 2-rail coal burner. I never get enough AC's!!!!!
Those boxes and shelves beneath the firebox and cab? I spent some time in Sacramento studying the real thing, making sketches, etc., and never did figure out what most of it was for. Maybe some of it was keeping water out of the fire?
i probably won't win for the most cab forwards, but I have three MMs, one MC, one AC-6, one Lobaugh AC-6SF, one Lobaugh AC-8, one scratch AC-8, and three more under construction of various types. I have no imports, and no Lionels.
Bob 2, I would love to have a Lobaugh!!!I can never get enough Cab Forwards!!! Your photos show your excellent work!!!!Keep building AC's!!!!
Ron H, for goodness sake, do not, under any circumstance, edit your thread title to alert folks that you have updated your thread--doing so would make it possible for those interested in your project to follow it. My gosh, spending 30 seconds to edit the title of your thread would cripple the spontaneity of the work you are doing.
Thank you for keeping those of us who are interested in your project in the dark. Well done.
Looks like the suits approve, Ron. What wonderful attention to detail!
I know where I can lay my hands on one of these CF's. You're making it harder to ignore adding it to the fleet.
Bruce
Anyone adding windows to the cab?
I'm going to open the side windows. Will grind off the red center posts. Will add glass to the front windows and might try to have the vent windows open. Don't know yet.
It is coming together well, you do some good work! Keep the pics coming.
Correct size side piping on engineers side being added and piping for side mount hydrostatic lubricator.
Hydrostatic lubricator? I wasn't aware that SP cab forwards ever had hydrostatic lubricators, besides any hydrostatic lubricators were always mounted inside the cab anyway.
It's what is shown in the Church book in the maintenance section.
It's what is shown in the Church book in the maintenance section.
May I suggest that you re-read that section and see if it doesn't state "Mechanical Lubricator", as in a Nathan DV5 or DV7.
Hotwater, it has 4 Nathan DV7 mechanicals, two for the valve gear and two for journal boxes. Additionally, it had the one external Hydrostatic lubricator. The book shows pictures of it in this location and it is correctly reproduced on the Williams, but without tubing. I'll be adding the Nathans with actuating arms to the links.
Ron
Hey that's all right, you can't get it perfect the first time. Keep plugging away at it and you'll achieve the correct look you're after.
Ron I'm gonna send you my Legacy CF so you can practice on it too 
That looks soooo much better w/o the big gap and expose spring/stud hangar for the pilot truck. I see why you chose that model now and not the Lionel model.
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