superstreets or ez streets?

Super Streets was a K-Line product, later sold under the Lionel name, so finding enough Super Streets track could be a problem. Super Streets has a Y and E Z Streets doesn't have a Y track.

E Z Streets is a Williams by Bachmann product and is available at most on-line retailers. Bachmann's online price is about 40 to 60 % too high!! E Z Streets has switches in 21 inch curve sizes, Super Streets don't have a switch track.

Vehicles are less expensive for Super Streets then for E Z Streets and both will work on either track system. Bachmann bought the rights to the Super Street products but renamed it "E Z Streets." The other difference with Super Streets verses E Z Streets is the color of the track sections, Bachmann's E Z Streets are a bit darker grey.

If I had to start again I would go with the E Z Streets track. Also other items such as small trolleys or hand cars can run on E Z Streets.

Lee Fritz

Thanks Lee

Is there a design program for Streets?

RR-Track has a super streets track library.

Super streets is now E-Z streets, same product but now made by Bachmann.

There is a pretty good book about them available, actually there are two books, but the second is more about customizing the vehicles and other things. Here's the first one Super/E-Z Streets 

SCARM (which is free) has a Superstreets library. Also, I think RRTrack and other commercial softwares have it. 

Everybody always wants to be on easy street

I'm pretty sure you can combine the two types, from Lee's book on the topic.

Roadway sold by K-Line, K-LbL, and WBB is identical except for color. Any company‘s roadway and vehicles will fit and work together flawlessly with roadway pieces and vehicles sold by any other company.

rogerpete posted:

Thanks Lee

Is there a design program for Streets?

I don't use a track program with my track, I have looked at track designs but I would have to modify them as most designs limit you to one or two trains for the whole layout. Others will be able to tell you if there is a program for track design.

As far as what vehicle will run on Super Streets or E Z Streets, it can be trial and error. Also the two Streets track can be inter-mixed but it may look odd having two different color sections of track next to each other.

Super Street track sold by K-Line and K-Line by Lionel are the same color. Bachmann's E Z Streets are darker in color.

Lee Fritz

If you remember Jerry Calabrese told us that Lionel had something even better on the planning board. 

Charlienassau posted:

If you remember Jerry Calabrese told us that Lionel had something even better on the planning board. 

What is the product Lionel had on the planning board?

Lee Fritz

No offense, but I tend to shop products that are actually in production.   It could be on the planning board for years and then drop out of sight.

What GunrunnerJohn said.

The K-Line and Lionel D-21 curves are almost impossible to find. I'll probably switch to the Bachmann E-Z Streets when I put in the new roads since the darker color is a better match .

I think slotless vehicles will make the tracked road vehicles obsolete.

https://youtu.be/ACkmg3Y64_s?t=67

Yes except to run trolleys.

   I don't think those are "trackless", we just cant see the underside of the table. I think they use an intricate series of magnets & cable systems if I remember right.

   But I you may be right soon enough, seeing how Zip-Zaps are over ten years old, and could be slowed down by gearing pretty easy. Keeping good track of them, not so easy.

I'd like to see the Faller car System in one of the larger scales.  Currently, I believe it is only made in HOI scale.  No rails at all.  Cars and trucks are guided by a buried wire in the street.  Google Faller Car System to be amazed.