Is this steam engine going to be sold by Trainworld only?

Any news on the RDG T-1?

No Jim, it can be  purchased through any MTH dealer. Dave

I went and made an impulse pre-order of this. Guess I better start re planning my layout for O-72 curves.  I already own an imperial big boy and love the engine...figure the full scale model will be great.  Still hoping that MTH survives in some shape or form...

20-3808-1 is now sold out from MTH.  We have met our allocation on that number as well and no longer taking preorders.

We Still Have room on 20-3807-1 but should sell out shortly since the original version is sold out.

@pbuff posted:

I went and made an impulse pre-order of this. Guess I better start re planning my layout for O-72 curves.  I already own an imperial big boy and love the engine...figure the full scale model will be great.  Still hoping that MTH survives in some shape or form...

You are right. I hope somehow in some way they can survive. I have 2 premier big boys now. I would really like to pre order one of these. I am still not ruling it out. My hang up is about future repairs/parts that may not be available in 2 years from now. I know that under warranty it will get repaired. What happens in 2 years when a board or a smoke unit or anything else goes bad. Imagine having a 1650.00 boat anchor/ shelf queen. Think of the hassle of trying to find an individual who knows how to repair it or someone who wants to. My collection of locos is about 90% MTH and I am worried how to keep this stuff running. Just can't keep buying MTH without some sort of assurances on parts/labor availability. toss em in the trash when they dont work anymore. After all, isn't it disposable income?

I thought this was a good place to enter some good information. I just received a very large box from Train World. Contents of an MTH #1 Gauge Locomotive. I opened the shipping carton to find the Locomotive I ordered in the outer shipping carton in great condition just like it left the factory. I really appreciated that type of extra mile service. They could have made it easy on themselves to put the shipping labels on the MTH box and been done. That speaks a lot about the people in charge. Thanks so much. Dave Nichols

Thanks Dave!

@jini5 posted:

You are right. I hope somehow in some way they can survive. I have 2 premier big boys now. I would really like to pre order one of these. I am still not ruling it out. My hang up is about future repairs/parts that may not be available in 2 years from now. I know that under warranty it will get repaired. What happens in 2 years when a board or a smoke unit or anything else goes bad. Imagine having a 1650.00 boat anchor/ shelf queen. Think of the hassle of trying to find an individual who knows how to repair it or someone who wants to. My collection of locos is about 90% MTH and I am worried how to keep this stuff running. Just can't keep buying MTH without some sort of assurances on parts/labor availability. toss em in the trash when they dont work anymore. After all, isn't it disposable income?

ERR it, throw in a reverse unit, add a bridge rectifier so it runs forward. A dead board is no reason to "trash" a locomotive. There are plenty of easy options to make it run again.

@TrainWorld.com posted:

20-3808-1 is now sold out from MTH.  We have met our allocation on that number as well and no longer taking preorders.

We Still Have room on 20-3807-1 but should sell out shortly since the original version is sold out.

Ken I just ordered my Big Boy 20-3807-1. I can't wait!

I also forgot to mention that I ordered mine from Trainworld.  Huge fan of the Lynbrook store and the website - best service around!

I ordered my Big Boy from Trainworld.

I'm a little confused, did mth just release a restoration version not to long ago?, is there  any difference  in this version?

@Rush747red posted:

I'm a little confused, did mth just release a restoration version not to long ago?, is there  any difference  in this version?

Besides the signed certificate?  Probably not much.

@MartyE posted:

Besides the signed certificate?  Probably not much.

Ok thanks, I seen the Eric's train video of the big boy and was hoping it had the same sounds

@Rush747red posted:

Ok thanks, I seen the Eric's train video of the big boy and was hoping it had the same sounds

I imagine they could have some sounds added.  It does say something about 2019 excursion sounds.  Not sure if these were in previous models.

I have a feeling this isn't the last Big Boy by MTH, maybe the last Big Boy under Mike Wolf but not for MTH.  Just a feeling, I have no inside information.

Thanks, Richard, Vailen and Pbuff!

@MartyE posted:

Besides the signed certificate?  Probably not much.

Exactly, Its also another opportunity to buy one since the older run has sold out and one more last hurrah before Mike retires. My understanding is the 4014 with gloss black and working lights under the main drivers, like the real restored 4014 were the quickest selling Big Boy and throw in the PFA of the remake of the golden spike celebration and unveiling of 4014 made it more popular.

Are there a lighting & audio talk differences between the two models?

Anyone with a PS3 Big Boy can just download the 4014 sound file into it to get the PFA sequence: 20-3775-1 | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS (mthtrains.com)

Thanks Lou. That takes care of the sound differences. Is there any difference in the lighting?

Will these units be delivered by the time MTH goes out of business At the end of April or May?

Are these units part of  unsold MTH inventory being repainted and adding a new sound file?

NYC428, The Big Boys will be delivered after MTH closes. They will be delivered to Mike Wolf's house in a container. They will be shipped from there thus calling it Mike's Train House for the last time. These locomotives are going to be made new and having a new sound file added. Dave

Will it play the Miami Dolphin's theme song?

Thanks Dave !!

How many will be actually produced please?

After further discussion and clarification with Mike,  the specific number the engine was produced will be on the certificate of authenticity for each one.   The amount produced will be the number of orders given by Friday 1/22/2021, in which Mike will let me know the numbers produced. 

And I used up all my calls to Mike this weekend he is supposed to be on semi-retirement!

Tomorrow is the last day to order!

Each locomotive will include a signed Certificate of Authenticity by M.T.H. President Mike Wolf and are available in two different versions - No. 4014 Oil Burner in current Union Pacific gloss Restoration livery and No. 4014 Original Coal Burner. Models outfitted with the Restoration livery include the "Big Boy" chalk lettering on the boiler front, tender water level markings and a sound set celebrating the excursion runs of 2019.

I like both! But after looking on the Trainworld website I can't decide which one I like more... Hmmm.... I lean towards the oil burner one. Any thoughts on which one to pick?

Thanks, TrainFinder Craig

20-3807-1 Oil is winning in O scale right now but in G scale orders are the opposite.  So I guess pick which one you like!

Thanks Ken, I appreciate the insight. Since I won't lock anyone else out of either version because Mike Wolf was so generous to extend the pre-orders until Friday, and he will make what's pre-ordered, I decided to get one of each. Just made the order at Trainworld. I got to meet some great folks up at MTH when I picked up the factory showroom layout. Now I will have a couple of cool big boys to run on it (if I ever get it put back together haha)! I wish everyone at MTH well in the future no matter what happens!

Thanks, TrainFinder Craig

Ken,  I'm interested in the "G" scale Oil version.  I hope you get enough pre-orders in G so they actually make them

I bought the "O" scale versions (20-3807-1 and 20-3808-1). The "G" scale versions must be absolutely HUGE!

Thanks, TrainFinder Craig

I finally broke down and ordered a MTH steam engine, kind of odd it the last one being produced.

I hate to see MTH go away. Their products are affordable. But I understand that MR. Wolf wants to retire.

How big is the G gauge version? The dimensions are not listed on MTH's web site.