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Hello, fellow tinplaters I have a request for some help.  I recently acquired a German (it is marked "made in Germany") what the seller stated was a 1930'ish open slotted reefer.  The odd thing is that the car is labeled "Milk Traffic" and those words are in English, hence it must have been made for export likely to either UK or US.  It has a trademark printed on the bottom but I cannot read the name of the mfr nor does there seem to be any other reference to who made the car.  I am going to post pictures below, including one of the trademark.  I am hoping someone here can help me ID the maker and perhaps when it might have been made.  THANKS!

Here is the car, it is 4 wheel and about 5 1/2 " long, dark green, accented with yellow rivet highlights and obviously imprinted with the English words "Milk Traffic"  The trademark states "made in Germany" and you can see the European style couplers.

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Here is the mystery.  This is the trademark printed on the bottom of the car.  The top words, which I can read in the actual mark say..."Made in Germany" but the words after the picture of the little 2 window house I cannot read.

German Milk Traffic van trade mark

Anyone who could help me out to determine the maker and when it was made would be most appreciated.  The seller claimed 1930's but who knows?

Thanks for your help

Don

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Here is the mystery.  This is the trademark printed on the bottom of the car.  The top words, which I can read in the actual mark say..."Made in Germany" but the words after the picture of the little 2 window house I cannot read.

German Milk Traffic van trade mark

Anyone who could help me out to determine the maker and when it was made would be most appreciated.  The seller claimed 1930's but who knows?

Thanks for your help

Don

Don,

a B lying in a W says "Bing Werke". The milk traffic car has the No 62/560, was made 1923-1928.

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Arne

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@Fatman- What a neat set.  It seems like an early version of those Japanese and other inexpensive toy sets that we saw awhile back from the 1960's.  Much more realistic, those later ones with their very bright livery, do not have the "look" for real trains even though they are fun.  I had never seen the maker "Sunnyvale" before, I wonder if they made any other train toys.  I also noticed some interesting stickers on your box.  One of them from "Walther & Steve ..." has a message that I cannot read but I was wondering what it said?  In addition, the handwritten note..."Packd"  was interesting even if misspelled (at least in American English if the work is packed.)  It's fun to think about what was so important to the long ago owners that they had to put those stickers and wording on the box?

Great set for sure!  Thanks also for the pictures of the plain cattle version of my Milk Traffic van.  I must admit I am still a little curious about why the words "Milk Traffic" are in English (even the 3 cars Arne showed in his picture are in English) and so I am assuming that these items were made by Bing for export to either UK or US.

Glad to have you back on the forum Fatman, great to hear from you again.

Best Wishes

Don

@Buco ...Peter, my friend, I am sure you have followed the above inputs on this thread.  I am pleased to say that Arne identified my little Milk Traffic van as Bing and the makers stamp as a "B" nestled inside a "W" for Bing Werke and gave it a year of manufacture of 1923-1928.  As you can imagine I am thrilled with that information.

Best Wishes Mate!

Don



Great set for sure!  Thanks also for the pictures of the plain cattle version of my Milk Traffic van.  I must admit I am still a little curious about why the words "Milk Traffic" are in English (even the 3 cars Arne showed in his picture are in English) and so I am assuming that these items were made by Bing for export to either UK or US.

Glad to have you back on the forum Fatman, great to hear from you again.

Best Wishes

Don

Yes, was made for UK.

Here the picture from UK catalog 1928.

62-560

Arne

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Yes Don.....Arne is definitely "the man" when it comes to identifying European tinplate trains that have some age about them!!!

Fatman: Great to hear from you again.......we "boys from the bush" have to stick together. That is an unusual looking  "shunting engine" set, and it looks to be in very good condition....great find, and thanks for sharing!!!

Once again, Arne, you have sourced an incredible little train set that has survived 100 years almost intact. I sure hope I make it that far, and look half as good as it does at 100.

Played trains again yesterday with my neighbor's 5yr old son (he has Autism), and we had a ball. He is so clever using the transformer controls, hitting the bell and whistle buttons, and bringing the trains (yes we had two trains running at the same time - on separate tracks) to a stop, and then reversing them. That's what playing trains is all about......still have a smile on my face!!!

Peter.......Buco Australia.

Arne:  First thank you for confirming that my Milk Traffic van by Bing was made for the UK marked and showing me that catalog cut.  Now I have to find those Milk cans ! 

The train by Fischer is just great.  I love these old tinplate items although I have managed only to collect a very few of them, I still seek them out to add to my collection when I am lucky enough to find one.  Best of luck with your new train.  It certainly looks in far better condition than its 100 year old age.

Best Wishes

Don

As we are on Bing theme, here is my latest find, a lovely BING die cast loco for the New York Central from 1925-30. It is in good condition except that the commutator has exploded in three parts.... it is not going to be an easy fix and finding a replacement one is a dream so.... I have to do something to make it run again...

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All my best wishes, Daniel

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Wow Daniel, its great to hear from you again, hope all is well in France!  Your Bing cattle car was really neat to see.  I am afraid except for my Milk Traffic van I have no other Bing items, so I am very interested in what they offered as they are a very famous brand name and were very active in the US in the early part of the 20th century.  Your Bing locomotive is great.  Like my Milk Traffic van it too must have been intended for the export market from Germany as it is labeled NYC lines, in English.

By the way, it is really good to have you back on the forum.  Thanks for posting.

Don

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